If Joao had scored, should it have been disallowed

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    ally millar's right foot Active Member

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    The reading player voluntarily ran off the pitch before returning to challenge Collins. I think that technically, this is not allowed, He would need the officials permission to return.
     
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    Did they give a free kick?
     
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    Technically you have to have the referees permission to leave the field of play.
     
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    ally millar's right foot Active Member

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    Two offences then. Plot sickens.
     
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    So why does Anderson do the same regularly when we are launching long throws into the box he goes and stands off the pitch before coming back into play as the ball is thrown to try and flick the ball on into the middle of the goal mouth all though to be honest he might as well not have bothered yesterday as he didn't manage it once.
     
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    ally millar's right foot Active Member

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    He's in the wrong also.
     
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    From what I can gather on today’s referees is that it’s not essential to know all the rules .
    Time and again refs give decisions against play that is often obviously legal .
     
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    At that point the ball is dead. Taker of a thrown also steps off the pitch. As I understand it, the ball was live in the miss incident. :)
     
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    I think that it only becomes referee's discretion when a player leaves the pitch for attention from physio etc. I am pretty sure that a player can stand over the opposition goal line to avoid being offside and then re-enter the field of play, like Miete did, and not be offside, especially if the ball is played to him by an opposition player. One or two centre forwards down the years who tried the 'standing over the goal line' trick in order to score and keep up their goal-every-other-game ratio. I did wonder about Miete, but think that it was legit. Did he do it deliberately?? Not sure, but doubtful.
     
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    Years ago I was playing in the Sheffield U18's league, against a team who pretty much all had Irish accents - players, coaches, spectators, everyone The ref turned up in full official kit but sounded suspiciously similar to them He proceeded to referee the game in a manner that could only be described as 'Willard-esque', I'd never played in a game like it. Somehow we manged to stay in the game and went into the last 5 minutes only 3-2 down despite his best efforts. Almost on full time one of our lads sprinted down the right wing, put a cracking cross in from the byline which was headed home by our centre forward. Cue wild celebrations, which the ref stood and watched for a minute, then as everyone was heading back for the kick off, blew his whistle and announced with great glee, "No goal". Pandemonium..

    The explanation: After sliding to put the cross in, our winger's momentum had taken him over the line and off the field. The ref triumphantly announced he hadn't asked permission to leave the field of play, so it was disallowed.

    Going by the current standard, he's probably a pro ref now..
     
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    If you leave the field of play without permission then the rules say you're considered to be stood on the goal line and offside
     
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    I once got booked for going for a drink , and ref said you have to ask for permission to leave the field
     
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    Playing in an away match at school and losing 1-0, one of our lads smashed one in off the post, Ref gleefully announced, "No rebounds, goalkick"
     
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    I don't think you can stand of the pitch to avoid being offside, I have a vague memory of a ex ref explaining once that one of the rules covers it.

    Edit, sorry just seen @SuperTyke post.
     
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    It was more a foul on Collins than the foul on the keeper Dike supposedly did on theirs.
     
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    Our long throws are usually pretty insignificant although we have benefitted from one or two. Watching Marc Roberts and Cheltenham’s Ben Tozer on Quest last night shows what can be done with a proper long throw. Tozer made three goals with his missiles
     
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    He ran into the the goals didn’t he? Which I suppose is technically off the pitch but It was just his momentum that took him there, which is accidental therefore not an offence. Questions we should be asking is why wasn’t Collins aware of him being there? Why wasn’t there any communication at all? Why didn’t Styles look up before passing back?
     
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    It wasn't "momentum". Watch it again. He chose to go into the goal and finger the netting. (probably an offence in itself). Then turned and re-engaged in play when he saw the back pass.
    Just out of interest, wonder what a 20 episode edition of VAR would have concluded.
     
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    Nothing,
     
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    I dont think temporarily leaving the field of play when running out of pitch or even to get round an opponent is an offence in the way the OP is trying to imply - there is no question the goal would have stood
     

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