While you enjoy ...

Do you have some sort of interest in the hospitality industry? Just wondering, because you seem very agitated about it all?

 

I think I'd agree with you more once we are further down the road towards having everyone vaccinated.

 

Well I can't speak for others, but I don't get a sweaty face from strolling around for an hour. Now if you're going for a jog, I've no issue with that. Though i would like the joggers to have a bit more respect and keep a minimum of 2 metres.

 

I don't understand why but he flat out refuses to answer the questions put to him

 

Do you accept there is a different between a country pub and one of Wellington streets finest?

 

I do. But I don't think that's relevant. From 17 May, the government guidance provides as follows:

"Business and activities

Most businesses in all but the highest risk sectors will be able to reopen. In all sectors, COVID-Secure guidance will remain in place and businesses may not cater for groups bigger than the legal limits. Indoor hospitality will reopen - and as in Step 2, venues will not have to serve a substantial meal with alcoholic drinks; nor will there be a curfew. Customers will, however, have to order, eat and drink while seated."

The argument is whether that ought to be permitted before 17 May. I think it's sensible to gradually re-open and monitor any changes in infection rates, etc. It could have easily have been the other way around - pubs first and shops and schools on 17 May. But I think they've got it the right way round. In any event, I think that the legal challenge will fail, but even if it succeeds I think that the government has ample means to ensure it's still 17 May. I don't much care either way, but I think the legal challenge is ill-advised.

 

But it's quite alright for shops to be allowed to stop open until 10pm while shoppers are being told by the chancellor to "Go have fun".

https://bmmagazine.co.uk/news/high-...il-10pm-in-england-so-people-can-go-have-fun/

Meanwhile RSPB reserves have now been told that they cannot open hides on their reserves (having previously being told they could...following the guidelines they were originally given) even though they always have the windows open, so people can see clearly, providing maximum ventilation

 

Of coure it's relevant. They are forced to close because the toxic government (and you earlier in the thread) refused to differentiate between them.
The same government who differentiated between, and created different laws for, different retail outlets within HOURS of the original lockdown a year ago.

Also why is it the right way round? Shops were given the freedom to open without any social distancing last time, hospitality wasn't. Why is it fair and right to do it the same way round this time?

 

Wow! Lots of anger!

 

People are losing their jobs due to these decisions...people do feel a lot of anger towards it.

Perhaps we should just never question the government and let them do what they want without scrutiny or being held to account.

 

People's lives are being destroyed, mental and physical health alike.

 

I’m completely guessing here and I guess if it was this reason then they would have said it but is it possibly because in a hospitality setting you are eating or drinking and therefore have to be maskless but when you are inside any other building (shops etc.) you have to wear one? I know the 2m distancing and windows open is supposed to combat that, and I’m not debating by the effectiveness of masks, I’m just wondering if the lack of mask wearing fed into their decision making.

 

I think there's probably an element of that, but if im honest I reckon they think everyone's just going to get pissed and hug each other all the time, treating everyone the same which is massively unfair.

 

Well when the biased, unfair, unscientific hypocritical illegal decisions out my job and home at risk and the job and homes of most of the people I know then yeah I'm angry. Angry that the government do it and angry that people such as you support it despite knowing in your heart of hearts that it's wrong.

 

I might be way off the mark here but aren't there legally different classifications of pubs etc too? Like aren't they registered as an inn, bar, public house etc with quite a lot of differing categories depending on exactly what they serve and how it's set up? If I've got that wrong then it's an absolute disgrace that they're all being treated as the same thing

 

And there we have it. One is for the purpose of spending money and the other is for the purpose of enjoying your life, so we're opening up the one that is about spending money. There is genuine evil right there.

 

Ive no idea to be honest! I just like the beer

 

He's a monster and I don't use that term lightly. Boris is a thick lovely person but Hancock is an absolute pure evil *******. He's a criminal, he's a ****** and I hope he tits rots in hell for eternity. I also hope he starts rotting in hell much earlier than he'd hope.