European super league

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  1. Tyke_67

    Tyke_67 Well-Known Member

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    I can only agree with that assessment. :)
     
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    Easiest way for fans to stop this is not to subscribe to any broadcasts and when any sponsors are announced actively avoid their products and undertake social media campaign against the sponsor. That type of backlash does not sit well with corporates.

    There are supposedly 4 billion fans of football (probably an underestimation as I’ve not included the massives from S6) if only a small proportion of 4 billion are vocal and actually restrict payments and avoid sponsors the money disappears.

    if only I knew what I know now I’d have avoided buying a sky dish all those years ago.
     
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    Thing that players linked to this need to understand is American sports have salary caps. The caps are there to unsure owners can maximise their earnings. There won't be a cap initially but give it a few years and the owners will do it mark my words.
     
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    In fact I see the DAZN is owned by Access Industries, which is owned by Len Blavatnik, the UK's richest man as of 2017, Russian oligarch and donor of millions to Trump and the Republican party and £150k to Tory party some yeears ago.....
     
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    So the team that finishes 1st then enters a playoff knockout with the 5 teams that finished below them to determine who should finish 1st? Eh?
     
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    That's American sport for you!
     
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    The way I see it, the average Villa or Newcastle fan doesn't belong in the target customers of the product though. There are hundreds of millions of fans all over the world who don't care about watching their "beloved" Liverpool or Real Madrid play against Villa or Barnsley or Getafe or Eibar. #teamslikebarnsley :) Sadly I can see the ESL being a great success if it gets a chance to take off. On the other hand it might be the only way to level the playing field for the all the other clubs, the ones that aren't so super.
     
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    Maybe it will be for other nations that don't really care about football but hopefully in Europe with those 6 out the equation we can have proper football back and fans promoted to the Champions league who are actually champions..
     
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    If you go back a bit further than the founding of the prem, the greed raised its head when the big clubs forced a change in gate receipts distribution. Home clubs shared the gate money with the away team until the rule was changed to,, home teams keep the gate money. The result was of course, Man U et al get all the money from a 70000 gate and the rest, with 25000 capacities can suit themselves. As a slight aside, I remember an interview with Man City chairman Peter Swales. When asked what the long term effects would be for a club like Doncaster, Swales replied “What happens at Doncaster isn’t my problem “. It seems that not much has changed,,,,, apart from the number of zeros on the ££££££££
     
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    Although they have denied involvement.

     
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    Yep! Doesn't make a lot of sense to me either, but I can almost guarantee that's how it would work.

    How do you get a big spectacle game for the 'winner' otherwise? Leaving money on the table.

    They might do further what they do in the US and split the teams into groups. That doesn't necessarily mean what we immediately think of though when you think of groups. In the NFL there's 2 conferences with 4 groups in each. so 8 groups in total. Then the teams play the following games
    • Each team plays twice against each of the other three teams in its division: once at home, and once on the road (six games).
    • Each team plays once against each of the four teams from another division within its own conference, with the assigned division based on a three-year rotation: two at home, and two on the road (four games).
    • Each team plays once against each team from each of the remaining two divisions within its conference that finished in a similar placement in the final divisional standings in the prior season: one at home, one on the road (two games).
    • Each team plays once against each of the four teams from a division in the other conference, with the assigned division based on a four-year rotation: two at home, and two on the road (four games).
    • Each team also plays one game against the team from a predetermined division in the other conference (based on a four-year rotation), that finished in a similar placement in the final divisional standings in the prior season (one game).

    Then 7 teams from each conference advance to the postseason playoffs. The 4 winners of the groups and then the 3 wildcards, the teams with the best records from the rest. Then the 3 lowest placed winners face the 3 wildcards, with the second and 3rd seeds then playing each other and the lowest seed playing the top winner. Then the winner of those play, with the winners of that game from each conference playing each other in the superbowl.

    Not confusing at all, eh?
     
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    I've always thought that top level football desperately needs salary caps, but I've never thought about it that way. Is the salary cap the same for each team in NFL/NBA/NHL/etc, or do the bigger teams get a bigger share? If it's the same for everyone, it would at least be fair, even if it was meant for the money people to maximise their earnings.
     
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    Don't forget West Ham.
     
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    The more I think about this, the more I can see this bringing a complete upheaval of the league structure. EPL2 has long been burning away in the background. If there is a reduction in EPL revenues that are disseminated with EFL clubs, the 1st and 2nd tier of the EFL is going to get a hit.

    With clubs like Portsmouth, Ipswich, Sunderland, and soon to be Wednesday and maybe even Derby, I can well see those owners (many without links to the locality) looking at revenues first and wanting to push to be in the next tier up just because of size and alleged appeal to a TV audience.

    It wouldn't surprise me at all if the ultimate loser of all of this is the EFL and we have a breakaway EPL 2 in reply to a breakaway ESL.
     
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    Dafuq is that?! Madness!
     
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    Be a dead competition within a year. Let em go and tell em to get ****** from domestic competitions.
     
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    i've got to laugh about the epl uefa & fifa complaining about this news with ex players going on about greed! pot/kettle??
    epl and sky combined to create a huge gap between the rich & poor in english football, uefa got greedy by letting non champions win the title to gain more money and degrading our own domestic cups in the process, and fifa, well we all know they're corrupt
    i honestly can't see this new project going ahead if the players get banned from playing for their countries, it would end up like mls in the 70's when aging pros go for a last big pay cheque
    quite a few lawyers will be rubbing their hands too
     
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    Some more details being teased.

    The founding clubs have signed a contract for a 23 year commitment to the ESL.

    Legal advice given to these clubs is that they can't be prevented from joining the ESL, would be a breach of Eu and Uk competition rules.

    Clubs believe money will filter down and help wider game, alleging 8% of revenue will go to wider game.

    Share of money per club up to 3.5bn euro's and initial 300m payments to cover shortfall of income or infrastructure, not on transfers.
     

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