It's unfair to punish the big six clubs IMO

Nothing will happen to them.
They will be warned about their future conduct. These clubs carry too much clout in the football world to have any sanctions imposed.
You see.

 

It gets my goat when people say the owners aren’t the club. I’m afraid they are obviously a massive part of the club, you might not like it but it’s true. They have 100x more influence than us fans ever will. People need to stop separating the different elements of the club out, together the owners, staff, players, fans altogether are the club.

 

Owners and clubs are fundamentally seperate entities.

Sheihk Mansoor has been to one Man City Game in 12-13 years.

He's not part of the club on the ground, just a guy in the middle east writing checks.

 

Bang on. They’ve all got their snouts in the trough,, it’s just that some have their snouts in it deeper than others!

 

Remove all league placing payments to these clubs, and put it into grass roots football.
Hit the owners where it hurts most. In their pockets.

 

My hope is that some reform to the overall Premier League system is now taken to stop this happening again. It's in their interests. The other 14 clubs should have the power to get this through.

 

The ESL are to have a review. But will continue to find a solution that suits their ends.
Cnuts.

 

The problem is that when a club is sanctioned for any wrongdoing, be it a fine or points deduction, the fans of that club blame the league rather than the people who broke the rules in the first place. Unless you’re a Wigan fan that is.

 

Maybe a 3 match ban for McGeehan?

 

They won't want to totally give up and lose face completely.

 

If they have broken any rules (and FA rules prevent playing in an unsanctioned competition - but they never played a game), then they should be punished according to the FA rules. I quite like the idea of Arsenal being relegated with a -20 points deduction, which would be fitting punishment for the way they were originally promoted.

 

As has just been shown though fans CAN have a substantial influence on their owners. The Utd, Liverpool fanbase have been reasonably happy to have their owners in charge over the years.

 

All the united fans I know despise the Glazers.

Every summer they have a net spend of £40-60M.

Thats not much for the worlds biggest club these days.

 

As I've said on here before Owners, Directors, Managers and players come and go, the only constants are the supporters. Managers get sacked, the best players leave for more money, owners disappear after administration but the fans remain despite whatever the setbacks. The real issue here is mega rich owners (and particularly American) who only see £s, $s & €s. They are entrenched in thinking the elitist franchise system prevalent in the US would work in UK. They don't appreciate how much a football club is an intrinsic part of the community. So to go back to the original post, I think the 'Big 6' clubs should be punished possibly relegated, if only to send a message to foreign owners that our football clubs are not cash cows. We want to welcome foreign ownership like the guy at Leicester but the likes of the Glazers we don't want. The supporters will still be there no matter what the outcome of any punishments handed down. Our older fans may remember Christmas 1996 we played Man City in Div. 1 the City directors were spending Christmas in the Caribbean, we won 2-0. In the second half the City fans were chanting "We'd rather be in Barnsley than Barbados". The billionaire owners would never get their head around that mentality when it comes the English game.

 

IIRC Manchester United resigned from the ECA, so they have lost themselves power and influence within the game - for at least a little while.

 

Sorry Marc, I disagree. If you look how this debacle was put together in secrecy with no consultation and in breach of L9 of Premiership membership, it was a conspiracy by a cabal of owners. If you also look at this analogically with criminal law ‘conspiracy to murder’ is an offence. The sincerity of the apologies from the owners is extremely questionable. There was no commitment that they won’t try again at a later date, so they need a deterrent to prevent any egregious ambition they may have in the future.

 

But surely you know what happens to those involved in failed coups. In politics they’re ostracised, in Hitlers Germany they were shot, in African dictatorships there’s no telling was tortures are inflicted. No, just because it didn’t come off it doesn’t mean no problem, no harm done. There should be consequences.

 

I've no doubt they do but they don't hate them enough to actively do anything about it. In my view that makes them, at least partially culpable in allowing the Glazers to act in their name.