Stendel Has The Nancy Job

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  1. Mid

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    Le Coq Sportif?
     
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    Daniel chose to seek fresh pastures , he now has them , in my opinion he is special & I hope things go well for him .
     
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    Why do you think he's special?
     
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    Except he didn’t go anywhere did he? I can fully reason he was thoroughly fed up with his team getting sold off after his sacrifices, but the supposed legal action doesn’t seem to have gone anywhere which casts more doubt on the owners assertions.
     
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    I think he is special to most Barnsley fans for the great job he did here & the relationship he had with the fans , I think most fans will remember him fondly & wish him well
     
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    I remember him fondly and I also wish him well. I think calling him special is a stretch though.
     
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    We disagree on this & have discussed it before, but the fact that when Daniel had his opportunity to deny his links to Huddersfield but he failed to do this & although I loved the bloke for what he did for us, I still believe that he was trying to engineer a move away from the club whilst under contract to us & the club did right to do what they did , the fact that he now appears to be back working for the owners shows that there is no animosity on either side.
     
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    Is that the name of the bar he's chosen to drink in?
     
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    Or an out of court settlement was made between 2 parties is also feasible
     
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    Really, that's not how I read the situation. Allegedly he went behind the clubs back without permission.
    I liked the guy. And the clubs statement was ill advised at best.
    But special. I'll leave that with others.

    Something must have changed to rectify the situation.
    I would have liked to be a fly on the wall during that interview/appointment.

    Now on another point VAl, is special.
    Lil. T67 and I've tried to intervene. To fight over our love for the man.

    I can't feight. so that's me out of the equation.
    Over to those two. It may turn ugly.
     
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    The owners also had the opportunity to divulge what really happened and failed to do so. He may have spoken with others, it happens all the time. Given he had his team sold out from under him and he begged for some experience every week, it's little surprise he may have found his position untenable. Our owners have admitted they are constantly tapping up other coaches once Struber left (wasn't he trying to engineer a move, and only because he had a huge release clause was he not sacked?).

    So you can see how this whole issue is riddled with hypocrisy and contradiction.

    And I very much doubt the relationship will be how it was when Conway waxed lyrical about Stendel always being at the club while ever he wanted (which he was on record multiple times as saying). I'd hope Conway in particular was effusive in his apology to Stendel for how they acted, even if only for the shocking 21 word statement, and even of only to him and sadly not in the public domain.
     
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    Was legal action ever actually taken? Though I would very much imagine their would be a gagging clause so we'd never find out anyway unless leaked if advantageous to our owners.

    I suspect no action took place and there was an apology to Daniel. I can't see how bridges would be rebuilt if an action was successful either way. There is a slight possibility our owners were on course to lose and settled as part of a signing on agreement. But like much, the real truth is unlikely to find its way into the public domain.

    But good luck to Daniel. I'd have him back in a heartbeat.
     
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    Why would they? And why would you expect them to?

    As much as we like to think we're shareholders in our beloved club, we're not, we're customers at best and they don't owe us any explanation as to the running of the club or the financial and legal decisions they make.

    I know you take a keen interest in the method of funding the consortium used to purchase the club, I also know that you're deeply concerned as to the behind-the-scenes wranglings between them and the Crynes, but we really don't need to know about it.

    If the consortiums decisions begin to impact the club in a negative way then fair enough, haul them over the coals, but so far they've played a blinder.

    Getting rid of Stendel wasn't popular, but it was right.
     
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    He is special to me.

    I have never seen a manager, especially not from around here who threw himself into the Town as much as Stendel.

    His passion and entusiasm for the club was infectious.

    Oh, and getting automátic promotion from League 1 at the first time of asking is a fantastic achievement.

    I didnt see Ipswich, Charlton or Sunderland going straight back up
     
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    Cos they're basketcase clubs. Ours is well run.
     
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    He was the right man at the right time after Morais. The club was at a low point and suddenly we were given this young German who brought an exciting attacking brand of pressing football to us, and with a championship quality squad, he achieved the aim of getting us out of League One at the first attempt.
    I think it's also fair to say that he was not as tactically astute as Struber or Ismael or did not want to change the style of play because he believed it would eventually reap rewards.
    Based on results only, we needed to change manager when we did and once again brought in the right man at the right time in Struber, who was clearly in a better bargaining position than Daniel had been at the start of the season, as we saw some fundamental principles of the clubs philosophy breached.
    Struber had also clearly had his head turned at the start of this season, but I wish he'd gone to Watford and not NYRB as I think we might have finished second under Ismael.

    Coaching appointments have been one of this owners strong points and if Valerian leaves after the playoffs I'd trust them to already have his successor in place, especially now we have to other 4 clubs to blood them.
     
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    I don't expect anything of them. It's futile to do so. Verisimilitude is their watchword. Though i do expect they'll emerge in the next few days and definitely if we get to the PL. Taking credit for everything they haven't played much part in, probably taking credit for promotion to the PL last time.

    I don't think they've played a blinder, but I do think they are the luckiest owners that ever walked the earth and have benefitted from chance beyond belief. We should have played this season in League 1 remember. And I doubt we would have needed Wigans dodgy collapse if covid hadn't landed to give the players a long rest and reset.

    If we succeed all my praise will be aimed at Ismael, the players and James Cryne, where it is fully warranted. But we are where we are and today isn't the day to focus on their failings, others deserve attention and comment much more.
     
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    Wigan getting docked points wasn't lucky, it was the rules of the league being exercised.

    What else was lucky in your view?

    To single out individual sections of the club for praise and lambast others is a bit unfair in my opinion, especially when I really can't see any major problems; previous, immediate or long term.
     
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    People tend to forget that Stendel was given a Kids team in the championship after 4 of his Best left.

    No over 25s
    No Loanees
    Totally new team

    Struber didnt have such hard constraints
     
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