Mental health

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  1. Gegenpresser

    Gegenpresser Well-Known Member

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    Wife is a nurse.

    It's no different to any other job. You get all sorts. Those who commit. Those who don't. You know this. You work with them. You may be one of those who turns up, and work it as best you can to your own advantage. You may be one who gives their all. Most fall inbetween.

    The usual employed suspects disappeared when the **** hit the fan, claiming this or that as to why they ought not to be at work. Usually it was the need to isolate. None of them ended up with covid. The wife did. Big style.

    This left the ones with their NHS ethos to carry the can. They did. We clapped for them. But do not think that this represents them all.

    They're only like you and me.
     
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    I’ve been shouting this for nearly all my life.
    I’ve run my own business, worked for small and large private companies, the civil service and local authority.

    I’ve worked with some absolute heroes, and some right lazy ********.

    Obviously I also have been a customer of the public sector and private companies.

    And the most annoying ‘opinion’ I ever come across is that there’s more waste/ worse staff in the public sector; it’s a media myth and it ought to be obvious it’s utter bulls hit
     
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  3. Gegenpresser

    Gegenpresser Well-Known Member

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    Public or private - we're all the same.

    I dare say that your private employee is less likely to get away with tossing it off day after day, however.

    Personally speaking - I have mostly absolutely fantastic staff. Others are OK. One or two are a fookin nightmare.

    Just like your NHS employees.
     
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    Not my experience - I worked with some right lazy tw@s in the private sector. No more or less than in the public sector
     
  5. Gegenpresser

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    My understanding is that it is more likely that they will be moved elsewhere if they are in the private sector.

    Although my own personal philosophy is to embrace them nevertheless.

    We come in all shapes and sizes,
     
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    You started in this thread, and continue to do so. Can see right through you. But Labour again.
     
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    if you are lazy and incompetent in the private sector you just get promoted to hide the fact more often.
     
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    That's the impression I get of the people I know in the private sector!
     
  9. Redstone

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    I think the truth is incompetent people are everywhere in both private and public sectors.
     
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    I’ve worked in both. In the private sector, as long as your face fits, they promote incompetence. Public sector they used to silo you into an area now they manage you out as services are too lean these days to take that.
     
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    As has already been pointed out, you get good and bad in all walks of life, and a huge chunk in between. I've spent months and months of my life in hospital so I've seen this first hand.

    I would argue, because of the the nature of the profession, that they're dealing with people who are suffering, the proportion of nurses who go that extra mile is greater than in some other jobs, but I can't prove that. They're certainly not all angels, but most work very hard under extremely trying conditions. A few don't, but I can think of half a dozen who have helped me personally when I've been broken and terrified.
     
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    This is the main difference between a lot in the NHS and private workers.
    Most private workers can go home, switch off and leave work at work, in the NHS it’s much harder for the staff on the caring side to do this.
    My daughter was under a Cancer ward care for 4 years and we saw the relationships the Staff(Nurses, Doctors and Cleaners), built up with the children and also saw first hand the joy they felt of remission cases and the grief of the losses.

    Imagine having a job that constantly puts you through the turmoil of them emotions.
     
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    In my experience, with a few exceptions, the Nursing Assistants were the ones who engaged with and helped patients.

    Even the dinner ladies spent more time speaking to patients.

    The nurses hid away in their office, only coming out when it was time to hand out the pills.
     
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    my missis today has been moved onto an acute ward when she arrived at work due to numbers. She is the only qualified member of staff. Can’t see her hiding in the office much.
     
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    I know I'm a bit thick but when I go to a hospital I don't even know what job anyone there has. I know there are different uniforms for different jobs, nurses, nursing assistants, doctors etc but as I don't work in the area I couldn't for the life of me tell you what they all mean. I couldn't tell you the nurses tried hard but the doctors didn't or the assistants did but the nurses didn't because I don't know who's who. What I do know is that some PEOPLE who work in hospitals (and doctors etc) are brilliant and some are awful but I definitely reckon there are more that are brilliant than there are that are lazy
     
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    Spot on.
     
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    Seeing the NHS under threat of privatisation can I add the following.
    As a person who works in a utility industry. I have worked under public and private ownership.
    Under public ownership. The emphasis was on providing the best possible service with profit not an issue. Now under private ownership. The haemorrhage of money to private companies holding all the cards as preferred suppliers is mind blowing. The inefficiencies astonishing.
    I have never considered myself as a worker for these owners and the charlatans that run the business.
    I always remind myself, its You. The public (individual households) that pay my wages and you have no choice of another provider.
     
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    They are on about colour coding the uniforms to give more of a visual representation (they do this in Ireland apparently). I think this is more aimed at staff as it will show that at a glance what each person is qualified to do. I know at work it would help the missis. When they restrain people only some levels of staff can do thiis for example but guess it might help patients as well
     
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    Sums up my grandmothers last stay in BGDH.

    Night shift especially.

    They didnt like me very much after my first visit.
     
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