Barnsley Hospital overwhelmed

that’s the conflation of a few different issues, I’m not really sure if you have umbrage with the planning department, nhs, government or your gp surgery. But if you are suggesting that your GP is being lazy (I’m not saying you are but that’s the theme in the other posts) then the chances are you are probably wrong, as are they.

 

Yep agreed mate and probably quite soon

Suspect Covid will be the rationale for it, perhaps Machiavellian, perhaps not. In some ways it matters not, it has gone past the point of no return.

 

Not for one minute suggesting they are lazy. It's a failure of all the strategic points. Planning, census surveys and the lot.

I was just pointing out that, GPs have a fail safe option, they can easily say that they have no appointments knowing A&E is a back up.

A&E don't have that option. They never shut their doors without at least getting support form nearby services.

I wonder how GP services would cope if they ran an A&E style walk through the door service. Simple answer is they wouldn't...

 

Hey mate,

Can you tell your Mrs from me & our family think shes doing an amazing job.

 

I know everyone's experience is different but honestly I've never heard a bigger load of tripe in my life. Every single person I know has now had at least the first jab, and many both. Some Oxford some Pfizer, not one person had had any side effects or symptoms that you are suggest most of your colleagues did. I suspect this is anti vaccine drivel, the same stuff I see all over Facebook and Twitter despite no evidence supporting it.
I promise you that as someone who has long covid, I felt much worse having covid then I did the vaccine. I wouldn't wish covid on my worst enemy.

 

This is exactly what I'm afraid of

If I lived in America, I may as well just die.

The tablets I'm on right now, in the good old U S of A, would cost me approximately 4k a month.

Yes you read that right

 

It’s a lot more complex than that. Let’s take a moment to consider other hospital referrals that GPs make as a matter of course - as I understand it these are being rejected (a lot) at present by those hospital depts due to …..Covid……so where else can ppl be referred to?

not really sure what understand your other comment 35 hours I would take that either - not relevant to anything.

anyway it probably comes down to a point we agree on - the NHS is underfunded etc but back to my original point - don’t blame your GP - they’re definitely not the ones to blame and are taking a lot of flak which is misconceived. Good night and up the reds

 

There were 31.5 million appointments in England's GP practices in April, that's the equivalent of 54% of the population seeing either their GP or other professional in their practice. 45% were seen same day.

Removing approx 7.5million of these appointments which account for GP practices administering covid vaccinations still means about 41% of the population were consulted with in a single month.

600 WTE GP's less in 2020 than 2019, fewer in training than will retire.

Unsustainable.

(Stats from NHS Digital)

 

Maybe if the investment kept up with inflation we might have a chance

 

Yep. Alienating about 16% of your workforce and choosing not to invest in the service properly bodes well.........

 

Your right. We do agree.

I do however, make a point with the 35 hours. What I meant was, its been widely reported that GP's regularly do double that apparently (or it used to be). So if your missus manages to stick to 35 (beyond her contract hours as well) good for her mate. Honestly.

The underfunding yes I agree to an extent. More that they are, however, a massive waste exists. People are paid in the NHS to literally move files of paper around. In this day in age, with digitisation is not with questions. But, as you will know, each GP, each hospital or NHS service also use different software......

Same with councils, but it can certainly do with a kick however, any form of digitisation or sharing of data, is almost universally met with, you guessed it... "not sharing my data". So where do we go? (Doesn't help that the torys are itching to make money and privatise it)

 

Well I wouldn't deny your experience, but you'll clearly deny what my friend is suffering, which is is basically the difference between us. Isn't it.

 

Don't take this the wrong way Jay, but what are you suggesting?

I'm not doubting your colleague is unwell, but how are we supposed to get out of this mess?

 

Your post didn't come across as you talking about one person though. I read it as loads of your colleagues have had the vaccine and have all become seriously unwell to the extend that hundreds of hours of work has been lost due to it. I thought your example of him was just the current example as you said he's amongst a number of colleagues feeling the same effects. I think that's how he read it too but I could be wrong and usually am

 

I don't know mate. All I know is that the NHS is fc*ked. And that me, our CEO, director of product, product manager and a few other colleagues spent the day attempting to get a medical appointment for my colleague.

 

I'm not talking about one person. There's one I'm particularly worried about at the moment, but he's not the only one.

 

I'm with you mate. Its a giant cluster poonany and the NHS is FUBAR'd as per Chef Tykes responses.

I've tried to put some words in a sentence after my first statement, and tbf my head is completely up my harris, so I don't feel i can do you or I justice even when my intentions are completely honourable.

 

In reply to some of the posts on this subject, personally I have been dismayed by the total lack of face to face appointments that my local doctors in a certain part of the county were offering in the pandemic. I understand the serious nature of the virus but for them to literally shut up shop and refer their patients to a&e. for any medical issue was in my mind totally unfair and greatly increased the work loads on their colleagues who did not have the option that the gp’s enjoyed. There are a lot of one man gp practices in this locality and they have been very swift pushing allied services into giving flu jabs and COVID jabs etc to the patients on their books whilst doctors sit back and receive payment for the work of others. The local gp’s are independent practices with their own cost centres and they are rewarded by the number of patients they have on the books. So next time when you visit a gp and you referred to another part of the Nhs or if you are lucky enough to have a course of treatment the cost of that is bourne by practice. There are some wonderful gp’s, nurses and health professionals out there but this pandemic has shown that there is also some that are not fit for purpose.