We dont need Mowatt

Mowatt is not Hourihane

I think his replacement is Styles, and then we have other options out wide

 

Our form massively improved after James left im not saying he isn't a great player to have in your squad but he never lasted the full 90 and we won 9 on the spin after he left and broke a club record.

 

Not many people are Hourihane. But Mowatt was named in the EFL Team of the season. I do think he's been very under rated by some.

 

There was absolutely no point playing him to hook the ball over his head and play head tennis. Complete waste of sublime talent.

 

Haha I don't think that was the case I think when you are playing the style we played you need players who have better fitness levels. Look at the time when he was here under hecky we had players like davies, yiadom,roberts, Angus, hammill, Kent, scowen, Watkins, Adam Armstrong, Bradshaw and James was ever present we won 3 games out of 18 and 2 were against sides who ended up relegated. He was a good player James but jesus he's not kante.

I do agree with you that mowatt is under rated by many and will be missed

 

I love Styles. He's quality. He's played the last eighteen months or so at left-wing back though. I've barely seen him start a game in the middle of the park, so I'd be lying if I said I thought he could take over from Mowatt.

A midfield depth of Styles, Kane and Palmer would be pretty poor. Definitely need another in if Mowatt goes.

 

James is a fulcrum. He can keep the ball moving and can spray it around. He chipped in quite a few goals and assists at Coventry. Ismael's style didn't suit him at all because the midfield were often asked to just help it on for long periods of the game. Halme isn't a midfielder, not even close, but the extra height helped with head tennis and making games ugly.

I'll be interested to see how James does at Bristol City under a manager who clearly rates him.

 

Actually I really rated Halme at the base of Strubers diamond.

Very good tackler and calming presence.

 

We'll end up with Teddy Bishop from Ipswich. Ipswich are close to signing Harper from West Brom. Mowatt to West Brom. Full transfer circle completed.

 

The midfielders i appreciate most are ones that have ability with the ball. Tackling and tracking is important obviously, but if they can't pass and shoot especially well and they get regular game time, you're not going to create much and your team are likely to struggle.

 

Lets not forget Christie-Davies and Ritzmeier....two worldbeater replacements right there

 

At 1st you say that mowatt was our best midfielder once James went suggesting we missed him. Then I pointed out we didn't miss him because we went on a great run and broke a club record, then you suggest that was because of our style of play, he was in the side from the start under struber when we couldn't win a game or score from open play. Bristol city will probley do okay next season big budget owner who throws money at them James is a decent signing on a fee even if he isn't playing a full 90 or all the time but to suggest we missed him after he left isn't true.

And halme has played in midfield before last season he's played there at Leeds and under stendel.

 

What if styles goes.

 

James signed on 16th October. Struber left on 6th October.

James has more quality than Mowatt, he was very highly rated at Leicester. If he hadn't had such awful injuries he might have even been involved at national level.

You're right, we didn't "miss" James. My point was he wasn't valued and utilised. Completely wasted.

Mel Machin initially played Redfearn as a defensive midfielder. Unsurprisingly, despite smashing 20 (nearly?) goals for Oldham to get them promoted, he struggled to register many goals at first.

James is a quality player with superb technique and an incredible passing range. To display that, you need to have the ball to feet with an intent to retain the ball. I judge players on quality and my enjoyment of those games. Purely winning isn't and never will be that important to me.

I'd rather have Matty James in midfield rather than a centre half with poor creative ability. I'd rather have Matty James in midfield with a remit to pass it rather than treat the ball as if its going to explode any moment, or where letting it touch the ground is a hanging offence.

We all want different things from football, and we all have different views of what is important and what isn't.

You have your view, I have mine.

 

I imagine if he goes it might be to one of the three clubs relegated from the premier league , regarding championship clubs , if you consider that 3 clubs above us got promoted, then Swansea apart, all the rest from last season finished below us , so you have hedged your bets there

 

Yes my bad he wasn't involved in strubers nightmare start.

He was highly rated and had some awful injuries before he came the 1st time.

He is a diffrent player to mowatt they will both be playing in the championship next season and over the course of the season I think mowatt will get the most goals and assists.

I'm not a fan of halme in midfield but he's played there throughout his career so he isn't out of position.

You speak about vals style asif it holded players back you have previously said it held woodrow back from scoring now it held the midfield back because all we did was loft balls over there head... funny how mowatt was named in the team of the season and styles and Britain both had a great season under him.

 

I'm talking about central midfielders. There's plenty of debate to be had whether Styles and Brittain were playing midfield, the wing back position asks so much more and with Ismaels formation, they were asked to do huge amounts of work, but at times were incredibly high up the pitch.

But yes, I think Ismaels style inhibited what James and Mowatt could do. The same with Kane and Palmer. Purely because for large spells they weren't encouraged to keep the ball and often speculatively punt it blindly. All of our central midfielders have better ability than that.

At least three of Mowatts goals were set pieces (one a penalty, just, one a direct corner). 2 were fantastic speculative hits. That leaves 3 others from open play over the course of a season. Mowatt was set piece taker in the main, so with such a reliance on set pieces in our team, it's evident his assists will be, well... assisted.

I rate Mowatt a lot. But I'll forever feel he wasn't utilised as much as he could have been, irrespective of how many goals he got and how many assists. Same as with James, same as with Woodrow.

 

But its how they can compliment those around them.

Halme is an anchor that frees up defensive duties for those creative players

 

In fairness I think Mowatt got in the team of the season in spite of Big Val's tactics, not because of them.

 

I'd rather have someone who could pass the ball well in such a position. And obviously Ismael didn't play a diamond or deploy a defensive midfielder in that way.