Useless Reds trivia...

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  1. Red

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    Gjorgji Hristov has a better record in a Reds shirt than Victor Adeboyejo.
     
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    Most of us have so that's no surprise lol.....
     
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    Love victor though. He loves it here and you can see he wants to be loved too the way he tries and gets involved on social media.
     
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    Considering one was our record transfer and the other was a freebie from Leyton Orient, it's hardly surprising.
     
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    This is where stats lie.

    The headline maybe true for goals, but

    £1.5m vs how much?
    How many minutes have each played?
    What was the work rate like?
    I seem to remember people moaning that Georgi was a bit lazy.

    It could be considered not to be a fair comparison That said, I do wish that Victor would score a few more goals.
     
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    Stats don’t lie. People just fail to add context to them.
     
  7. Red

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    Context is 4 goals in 50 odd games vs 8 goals in 40 odd games. What other context is there for a forward?
     
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    Age, experience, stage in their career, level of opponents, role asked to play, minutes on pitch
     
  9. Red

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    Not much in it age-wise when they signed, probably similar minutes too (hristov might even have had less minutes to be honest).
     
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    Tbf stats do not lie - it's how you apply them that matters.

    Victor Adeboyejo has a better goal record for Barnsley than Messi and Ronaldo combined.
     
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    You cannot really compare , they played at different levels , Victor has never played at Premier level , Georgi never played at division 1 , I know which one I prefer unfortunately he is now retired .
     
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    Tbf I was sort of defending your point with mine. It’s true Hristov does have a better record than Vic, if it’s goalscoring that you mean. A little more context:

    Vic 6 goals in 69 apps (20 starts, 2578 minutes)

    Giorgi 11 goals in 54 apps (22 starts, 2082 minutes)

    But a better record in a reds shirt? Well that can be debated if, since you didn’t say it originally, you don’t mean goalscoring.

    Vic has added 2 assists to his record whereas Giorgi made none.

    Vic’s win percentage is 51% whereas Giorgi’s is 28%

    PPG stands at 1.79 vs 0.93 in favour of Vic.

    This of course is all without the context of level, opponents, role asked to play etc.
     
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    Hristov did play in Division 1 in 98/99 albeit briefly. Remember him limping off at Crewe.
     
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    Yes but division 1 then was the championship/2nd tier, when they kept twatting around with division names!
    He left in 2000 but we didn’t get relegated until 2002. (Shudders) so never played in the 3rd tier.

    Vic also has never played international football at any level never mind senior, where Hristov scored a fair few.
     
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    Hristov was a fully fledged international when he signed for us , no comparison IMO ,
    Victor still has chance to come through whereas Georgi was the finished article .
     
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    Someone once said "scoring goals is not an attribute".
     
  17. Red

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    Was that the same person who said "knees are not important for a goalkeeper"?
     
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    GH had a pizza shop opposite town hall. As far as I'm aware VA hasn't.

    GH made national news slugging Barnsley lasses off. VA hasn't.

    I'll leave it there. Darent tell the Miss Barnsley story!!!!!!
     
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