John Stones

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  1. Harry Hough

    Harry Hough Well-Known Member

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    New deal at City Worth £250k per week.
     
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    £65m over 5 years, not including any bonuses or signing on fees.

    I think he's a great player and I'm really proud one of our own is doing so well, but come on, the game is eating itself.
     
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    I struggle with the concept. Yes they are in the public eye, yes he works to an elite level, yes he puts his body on the line and performs at a high level pretty much all year round.

    And I kind of get it when they defend themselves with the "I have looked after myself since I was 6, I was on the training ground when all my mates were smashing bus shelters, I have never touched booze and junk food, I work extremely hard.........." etc, etc, yadda, yadda. But:

    One of my best mates applied a similarly single-minded approach to his academic life. he did after school clubs, he did extra homework when the rest of us were drinking Barley Wine and kicking a ball about in the fields. He went to Uni when the rest of us found 'normal' jobs. At Uni, he barely saw a bar as each night was dedicated to his course. We saw him maybe twice a year for a beer before he immersed himself into his studies. I saved for my first BFC ST whilst he paid to be on the local Chamber of Commerce. He networked for success whilst I networked for sh1ts and giggles. It was some dedication, and he now has a wonderful life in the Midlands with a trophy wife and a lovely daughter and a converted house I could only dream of. He pulls the sum mentioned in the OP per YEAR!!

    The balance is well off kilter.

    Still, if you are in an industry that pays silly bucks, you take it with open hands, and I don't blame players for taking it.
     
  4. Dan

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    There are no words.
     
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    Apparently this is what he did when he was shown his new wage slip…
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    It's just supply and demand isn't it. There's a huge global audience for Premier League football and the players are the ones who supply the product. Who else are you gonna give the money to - the owners,the refs,the linesmen?

    Still obscene like,but that's how capitalism works I think
     
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    The only thing I can say, and have done on many occasions is, if the players didn’t get the money, somebody in a suit who has never kicked a ball would.
     
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    Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the creators of South Park, just signed a deal to produce six more series and fourteen extended specials. They got paid $900 million. Judge Judy was paid $47 million a year - $900000 per episode. I don't understand why people get so wound up about the players getting a decent payout. They're the ones creating the value.
     
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    I think a bigger proportion should go to the grass roots level of the game.
     
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    Enough for him to bank roll Penistone Church up the leagues like the class of 93 have to Salford :D
     
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    Worth noting that in Man City's last published accounts (to June 2020) they made a trading loss on operations of £19.9m off alleged turnover of £478m (which includes "other commercial activities" worth £246m). When including player trading and amortisation, they lost £126m in those accounts. They've had a huge share issue to shore up their balance sheet which shows retained losses of £730m.
     
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    & there's folk on this board that pull the unions down for demanding a lousy tenner a week pay rise for their members.
     
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    Nah, the people offended by 'some' footballers salaries and income are equally offended by the examples you mention. It's all ******, not just footy.
     
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    I dont think its a 'decent' payout though. It's an obscene payout regardless of whether Stones is a great player or not. The other examples you quote, if correct, are also obscene in my book. It is however how capitalism works and as has been said if you are the one being offered the money you're not going to turn it down are you? The problem (if one views it as a problem) is not the players taking massive wedges of cash its the system that allows them to take those wedges in the first place. I'm not happy with it at all but some people wont see an issue with it.
     
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    The 250k is purely press speculation but no doubt it will become folklore
     
  18. Dan

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    See, I don't think this is capitalism. The basic definition of capitalism is trade and commerce controlled by private ownership (not the state) FOR PROFIT.

    There is no intent by the owners of Man City to make profit. The perverse thing in this modern football industry bubble, these companies wrack up sizeable losses from money they don't have and in doing so build up large buffers against ever having to pay tax should they ever become solvent again.

    The treasury however aren't going to complain (not this one at least) because of the huge amounts of PAYE being paid (hopefully) and the glitz and glamour of it all and the potential association with rich people bringing attention to UK organisations.

    If ever anything was built on quicksand, its the Premier League.
     
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    Ah but after tax and NI he’ll only see about £110k a week, which, let’s face it is f**k all.
     
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    Good point about capitalism and footy.
     
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