Keir Starmer

How do you know? If you're so determined he has no policy, how can you say with such certainty that he's just Tory-lite?

 

This is genuinely one of the best 'where we're at' analyses I can remember reading in the last few years.

I dearly wish we could open everyone's head and drop this understanding in. We're all having the piss taken out of us, others in less developed parts of the world even moreso, and there's no reason things need to say that way. But whilstever ordinary people are manipulated to turn on each other instead of firing up, things will only continue to squeeze in the name of 'growth'.

Gravy Chips for PM

 

Thank you GC. This absolutely nails it.

 

Because basically his essay is a rehashed version of the 2015 tory manifesto. As the tories have moved to a populist party rather than a conservative one this is an attempt to gain the one nation centre right tory vote with the assumption being that under FPTP the centre left have no one else to vote for.

I suspect the Greens will prove them wrong and get around 10% of the popular vote with 5 to 6% if that being disaffected Centre left voters whilst Labour will make no in roads into the tory voters they are chasing. Possibly a negligible 1 % at best and end up with 32% to 33% of the vote.

The polls seem to back this up fairly strongly.

At the minute a vote for Starmers Labour is a wasted vote and keeps the tories in. Even given his obvious issues if he led on A progressive alliance and PR it would offer a route to govt. his current strategy does not. It’s either replace him or lose.

 

This is one of the most depressing sentiments I've ever read. Johnson doesn't have 'charisma,' he's a ******* moron. If a bloke from Barnsley - admittedly alongside the majority of the UK population - can be hoodwinked into describing what he offers as 'charisma,' I think that tells us exactly why we've got him as our PM.

It's also why every other country on the planet are laughing their tits off at us. Oh to have the means to go and join them.

 

Ken Loach's two penneth.



Whilst he talks a lot of sense, I think he's wrong about Corbyn. I have no problem with Corbyn personally, most of the stuff about him in the tabloids is made up but in this day of image and social media, he's unelectable and undermined the opposition to this horrendous government. I also blame Corbyn for Brexit, his half-arsed campaigning for remain convinced nobody who wasn't already committed.

 

Don't be depressed on my account. The online definition of charisma reads: "compelling attractiveness or charm that inspires devotion in others". Does that mean that I personally find him attractive or charming? Does it ****! But you'd be a fool not to see that an awful lot of people do. The man is disloyal, amoral and a serial liar. But he rode brexit and has even Labour strongholds voting him in. Starmer does not appear to have compelling attractiveness or charm in most people's eyes, but I'd take him as PM over Boris any day. There - hope that's lightened your mood!

 

So will there be a putsch next week?

 

looks very much an outlier poll as that was the only lead in over a year. Poll put today attached.

 

Angela Rayner now opposed to SKS's proposed reforms. Going to be an interesting few days.

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/keir-starmer-has-squandered-his-opportunity-wage-war-tories

Great article here from a long time conservative

 

Well he's nailed his colours to the mast there. It's a new tact for someone who does so much fence sitting.

 

Losing the wife and me as party members. But no doubt he’ll more than compensate in the Red Wall seats.

 

******* hell, tap in for Boris this, he can just say it's Starmer admitting he was right all along.

I wonder if this is proof of a Labour/Lib Dem pact, with Labour looking to reclaim the red wall and rely on the LDs taking seats down south. It might work but I'm a bit old fashioned in that I like my parties to run on what they actually believe is best for the country rather than what might get them into power.

 

Tory Lite Party go in to more detail on their website.

 

It’s proof Labour have abandoned Scotland altogether

 

That's all well and good, but the docile, bloated British public are so easily led by the media that any idea of a better life is scoffed at. There's too much laziness and apathy for them to look past their phones.

Britain doesn't deserve the calibre of Ken Loach, Jeremy Corbyn or Dennis Skinner anymore.

 

Agree. It hardly gets a mention in the media as it’s much easier to just blame Corbyn / Starmer / whoever’s in charge but losing all the Scottish seats under Milliband is one of the biggest issues any Labour leader now faces. It’s a huge number of seats that they have to find in England & Wales.