Morning after the night before

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  1. RedStriker

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    Come of FFS. Brittain isn't out of his depth. He proved that last season. He is however, badly directed.
     
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    It is abundantly clear in my eyes that Brittain is not playing for Schopp.
     
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    It was absolute garbage and has been pretty much all season, other than for 45 minutes against QPR.

    Schopp is a no-hoper and the club is simply burning time and points by not correcting the mistake of appointing him.

    We are absolutely dire.
     
  4. Marlon

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    Not sure that’s the case but if it is imo he can go ASAP either now or under a new coach .
    It’s one thing the fans have to endure poor tactics or picking wrong personnel for positions without players podding off the fans as well.
    I’ll always remember Hammil at Derby everything went against him and he ran his bolllocks off even after fourth goal . those are the players I want at my club .
     
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    I agree i don't think he is alone but noticeable with Britain, you don't turn into a bad player who can't be arsed overnight. Looks like trouble in camp to me.
     
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    I like your posts, even if I disagree with some of them. Helik is our best player. If he is playing badly, who is at fault?
     
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    Helik has to take ultimate responsibility for his own performance. Schopps guidance, or lack of it may play a part. The communications behind the scenes may be playing a part too. But Heliks performances have looked shaky so far this season. He's clearly most comfortable heading the ball back from launched clearances. Balls played down the side when he's over committed into midfield just expose two naive lads who have little experience but give it a good go.

    He's built up a lot of goodwill from last season, and last seasons goal scoring prowess have inflated his reputation. I do think if he'd been a new signing or say his name was Jasper Moon, he'd be getting some pelters for some of his performances this season.
     
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    I must be watching a different player, can't beat a man, can't cross, can't shoot
     
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    I'm not seeing that Brittain is deliberately not playing for Schopp. Yes he's made mistakes but so have the rest of the team.
     
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    He just looks a shadow of the player he was last season. He didn't even bother tracking back sometimes last night when we lost the ball. When he did he jogged.
     
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    We see eye-to-eye on most things, but I disagree regarding Helik. In fact, at one point in the first half, I commented that he was in a class above the rest of our team. I suspect he'll not be here at the end of January.
     
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    Not too sure on that tbh I thought there were a few occasions where he didn’t track back and his attempts to win the ball weren’t as convincing as last season .
    However I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as tactics or lack of could be reason for lack of motivation or feeling of this is crap.
    As you say he wasn’t the only one .
     
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    Oh yeh, should have put ‘tried’. My bad!
     
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    He's great at heading it back. Probably not too many better at that. But I've seen oil tankers turn quicker to try and recover.

    He was repeatedly at fault last night and his two fellow centre halves had to bail him out or try on numerous occasions. Just watch where he is for each of the goals or when the opposition romped through us.

    My feeling is we've held onto to him one window too long, probably because of the injury to Mads and that the championship market is shot to bits. He just doesn't look as interested to me on the handful of games I've seen. Maybe he expected to get a move. Or maybe his weaknesses are just being exposed by the change of style and lack of midfield pressing ahead of him.

    But like you I doubt he'll be here too much longer, if the transfer market recovers, he's one of our better players when he wants to be, and he'll want to be elsewhere now he's got his Poland cap.
     
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    So non of this is down to the ineptitude of the coach?

    I agree the players failed. All of them to be honest. Where are you going with this?
     
  17. Dan

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    I'm not going anywhere with it really, just sharing my views.

    I think there are a lot of reasons why we are where where we are. The coaching will be a factor. The players too. The car crash summer we contended with, some to our own making, others not. The calibre of recruitment and the players we offloaded or who left.

    I don't see how sacking Schopp and paying 3 years of his contract up while two of our coaches are banned from the touchline is the best move at the moment.

    It was always going to be a big ask for Schopp with some normality returning and what Ismael achieved results wise. If he'd followed Struber, I wonder if the criticism would be so loud?

    What I do believe though, if we have a defensive set up like that, and the players attitudes are as they were for the last 30 minutes or so, we have got major problems. It was way too open, casual and lacking in motivation.
     
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    I respectfully disagree. I think morris would have made all the difference last night as with a few of the other matches this season as someone who will get the ball down and drive with purpose and will play the ball to feet.
     
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    Brittain one of the best I've seen for us in that position, not far behind Eaden.
     
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    You basing that on this season or last? The ball was
    continuously in the box last season, coming from both Brittain and Styles. He’s been ***** this season like.
     

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