[Official Site] CLUB STATEMENT: RESPONSE TO BARNSLEY COUNCIL

I disagree, kind of with the same sentiment as yourself.

To me, the fact Club Statement #2 has no reference to 'structural' factors is extremely telling if not damning.

 

They dress everything up as a legal matter, so they don't have to be forthcoming.

 

Especially as this is how I first saw about it on Facebook, with the club emphasising that the stand had been closed 'following extensive structural inspections'.

 

'the terms of the Safety Certificate' (Council Statement) implies that the West Stand is structurally o.k. but the Council has stipulated certain conditions have to be met.
It may be that there is a restriction on numbers of supporters or an increase in the number of stewards needed.

Or could it be that the stand is deemed not to be suitable for supporters who have ambulatory problems.

Whatever the terms linked to the Safety Certificate the Club has taken the option of closing the Stand.

The secrecy is baffling.
Presumably the Council Certificate is accessible to the public ?

 

Last bloke in the White House used to use this tactic. Threatened legal action all the time, never got to the court steps.

 

The certificate is accessible and there's no restriction in seating numbers for the west stand (home end)

 

Have you seen the Council Certificate ?

 

Even Statement 1 has been carefully worded. It should actually say "As a result of extensive structural inspections" if the decision to close the West Stand was due to the inspections. "Following extensive structural inspections" could just mean the decision to close the West stand came after the inspection, but wasn't necessarily a consequence of it.

 

Yes. It's available online

 

I'd expect the council one to be more stringent if anything surely?

 

Yep - it’s misleading and points to they’ve had structural inspections and closed it due to them.

Misleading Deliberately or accidentally? People can make their own minds up.

 

I havent read everything that has been posted over the last couple of days so I may be repeating what has already been said but I find it strange that the safety inspections are carried out by Barnsley Council. Thats like a slum landlord giving his own property a clean bill of health. I can just imagine the outcry on here if Conway et al carried out a counter inspection by one of their own employees. Surely a safety inspection should be carried out by an independant body!

 

So being devils advocate here, their terms clearly state the club have to have their own inspections every 8 years ( or a stand every 2 rolling).
As unlikely as it sounds what could have happened is the club paid for a survey, was concerned over report, council then did theirs and had a different view.
The club is then left with 2 conflicting reports, which do they go with?
I am no expert but would assume that if they had a report done which raised concerns and went ahead their Insurance would be invalid and even liable for claims in the event of an issue occurs.

The above scenario could explain both statements being right.

 

But it's nothing like a slum landlord. The tenant is responsible for the upkeep of the stadium in the commercial lease. This is more like a landlord coming round once a year to check you haven't trashed the place

 

Been saying this, no one listens.

 

West stand closes stewards moved to North stand another 2.000 further tickets allocated to the original tickets for United
Game at 36 quid a throw....do the maths pretty profit for the day what...couple that with the remaining games over the season ...problem of shortage of stewards solved too ....do they honestly think we are that gullible in Barnsley not to see through their lies ....more contempt towards the supporter....no sentiment in business on their part.....
Transparency...as clear as treacle more like....
They can't pillock a pillocker especially in barnsley ....we invented the game

 

Soz, couldn’t find the made me laugh thread. Get your head around this..

 

My 'advice' is not to sit on the fence as it has structural inadequacies and you'll get splinters in your bottom.

As far as the club statement goes it truly is pathetic. Nothing of substance whatsoever, merely a bland 'we were right' comment.
I dont trust these guys as far as I can throw them. Never have done. They have done nothing for the club, not attempted to take it forward apart from trying to wheel and deal in management and via the spreadsheet but have spent a lot of time wrangling with the Crynes and the council.
If, just if, they have any sense of decency whatsoever they should explicitly state what they, as owners, are going to do in the next 2-3 years to progress the club for the benefit of the local community i.e
the fans. They probably wont do that though. I suspect they will come out with more 'blandness', threaten others with more legal action, sell players if they can make a bit more cash and cut costs even more than they are doing at the moment.
As to having another structural survey done I wouldn't be at all surprised if they appointed their own 'independent' surveyor who would, unsurprisingly, find that the west stand is structurally unsafe.
They should get out. Trouble is, there's no one in a position to take their place I suspect so we are lumbered with them. Meanwhile, the club deteriorates on and off the field......
Great!

 

I agree with you BMW.
However the truth of it is that people wont refrain from making accusations, nor will they wait for all the facts to surface.
That's not how it works these days.
My worry is we'll never get to know all the facts.
Meantime I'm sat with you with splinters up my a1rse

 

Titled ...Conway thinking of his next move on Barnsley supporters

 

The 'facts' could have been revealed when the club released its pathetic statements. The fact they refused to do so means that they are to blame for any allegations that come their way.