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  1. Skinner

    Skinner Well-Known Member

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    After listening to some of the stuff around me at Oakwell and reading some of the remarks aimed at Marcus Schopp I started to think what is it like for him..he's a family man with children who must be distraught at some of the levels of abuse he's receiving. He may be a thoroughly decent bloke who is sadly out of his depth in a occupation that takes no prisoners.Looking at the owners track record he's probably been given assurances that were never going to happen.I understand he's got a contract and our owners are reluctant to sack him purely because of the cost, but surely it would benefit him
    (and us) if he just said fair enough I'm off. Let's face it Managers get sacked regularly and pop up somewhere within no time...Ya tried and failed mate just walk away ..
     
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    Agree with most of that. Any team can have bad results, but it does worry me that the players don't seem (as far as we can tell) to rate the coach. Only one way that ends up.
     
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    Easily get a job back in Austria. Did a good job with a very small team and was a quality player for their national team. The longer he stays with us, the longer he’s doing his own reputation harm.
     
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    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Flip side of that could be that it's seen as a sign of commitment to the cause and not wanting to jump at the first sign of pressure. Can you imagine the interview process for his next job when he's asked why it didn't work out at Barnsley?
    • The captain and star striker had left before I got there. The replacement for the latter, plus an additional forward we bought, didn't get a Visa until the sixth game of the season
    • The replacement for the Captain managed four starts by November due to injury
    • The club couldn't negotiate for any of my coaching team to join me on my Barnsley adventure
    • I walked in to a club without a CEO or Club Secretary
    • I looked around the training pitch for other coaches on day one, as I couldn't bring any of my own, and almost asked the lads watching from the bank of the Metrodome to put the cones out for me
    • We did get a new CEO. But he didn't get started officially until September
    • I lost my most experienced Championship defender before a ball was kicked and the most promising striker in the first home game. Neither played again until November
    • The Head Physio decided he wanted to try something new and left
    • The Goalkeeping coach decided he wanted to try something new and left
    • The CEO then closed one of the stands and royally annoyed all the supporters. I don't know all the details there but it was crazy
    • While all this is going on 80% of the owners are being taken to court by 20% of the owners
    • The 80% owners also decided to stop using the 20% owners' recruitment spreadsheet
    • Some sport scientists and sports analysts members of the team had also left
    • <insert additional car crash moments here>

    Naturally, he's asked what he did to rally the team around all of these issues. At which point his answer is, 'Nothing other than consistency of a formation and style that was blatantly not working and that I inherited from my very successful predecessor. I did manage 548 different combinations in central midfield though, a feat not seen since the glory days of Nigel Spackman'.

    * Bullet Points just for @RedVesp
     
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    When you put it like that :)
     
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    Very fair point but at this rate, he won’t be getting an interview anywhere apart from the police for crimes against humanity over the persistence of playing the worse football we’ve seen since the 1950’s.
     
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    Since Blanchflower and Taylor.
     
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    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    He's very, very close to Danny Wilson V2 and Glynn Hodges at the minute.

    Don't get me wrong, I think he's created a rod for his own back with the recent team selections, and I'd love to understand the mentality behind it as I think he's a more than qualified coach. The job isn't too big for him, he isn't a nobody, but he's sleep walking through disaster after disaster right now. On the flip side what a shocking deck of cards to play with we gave him.
     
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    Can’t remember what season it was but one season in the 50’s, we won five league games. That’s what’s gonna happen this season.
     
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    Can you imagine the interview process for a First Officer when he's asked why it didn't work out on the Titanic? Naturally, he'd be asked what he did to rally the crew. At which point his answer is:

    “The captain ran us into an iceberg. It had a massive hole it. We were going down no matter what anyone did.”

    Leadership starts at the top.
     
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    I'm literally touching myself, right now.
     
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    I’d take that at this stage :confused::confused:
     
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    But the band played on
     
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    Not that was there, but I suspect it wasn't one of their greatest performances. And no one was cheering them as they went down.
     
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    Have you cum to same conclusion. Have you reached climax in your mass debate?
     
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    Terrific analysis that mate..
     
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    This, 100%. I don’t think he’s pulled up any trees and I’d be very (pleasantly) surprised if he managed to turn our form around, but he’s not useless, and he’s not doing it on purpose.

    I’m sure he’s been in the game long enough not to give a flying **** about booing from the terraces. I find some of the vitriol aimed at him a bit weird though.
     
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    Yes danny Wilson#2 was some bad football had me thinking today about that relegation and the season after #shudders#
     
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    Swindon away in League One. Truly awful
     
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