It's not exactly news that some people with active COVID infections don't have any symptoms - the vaccine can suppress symptoms as well. Because people can be infectious and not have symptoms this can cause hospital outbreaks and makes management of patients more difficult, slower etc. putting even more pressure on an already overloaded NHS. This is one of the reasons why we need to remain cautious - i.e. take precautions rather than blunder on into restrictions. Anyway, it's match day - COYR
It appears that having the jab does nothing to stop you contracting the disease or spreading it. However, without doubt, the hospital admissions and deaths are a fraction of what they were during that first wave when actual cases are similar. That could be because, although the vaccine doesn't stop you getting it, it limits how ill you become if you contract it after being vaccinated. Or it could be that a lot of those most vulnerable to the virus died from it during that first wave so we're not seeing the same number of deaths and hospitalisations as there aren't as many people who are vulnerable to it, we've already lost them. Or it could be the delta variant, which is more transmissible, isn't as virulent. I've had the original strain, which gave me flu symptoms for a week (flu, not a cold) and the delta which made a bit off it for a day or so. But that could be due to my body's ability to fight a virus it has seen before. Which leads us to another reason why hospitalisations and deaths are lower, previous exposure to the pathogen giving a far quicker and better immune response. Probably all the above factor into why deaths and hospitalisations are lower, and other factors. Which you believe is the primary factor will depend your agenda. An ardant abti-vaxer will say the vaccine is playing no part. Someone with shares in pfeizer will tell you it's all the vaccine. I don't know, but I do know the reasons aren't being reported very well.
What a joy to see. The country in the UK with least restrictions seeing such a huge decrease. The likes of Peston and Independent SAGE will be very upset. As will the long list of medical professionals who have made a fortune out of covid by millking media appearances, releasing books etc.
To be fair their popularity dosent mean their been untruthful or what they have to say should be dismissed . "COVID-19 vaccines are more effective than natural immunity, the CDC and fact-checkers say" https://twitter.com/i/events/1443793434129539075?t=6JHQ7TLTE2noiEqYgilcYg&s=09 AP reporting that vaccines are more effective than natural immunity . Anyone with half a brain knows that's a complete lie and that's coming from one of the major news outlets .
It is hardly a reputable source though is it? Maybe it is 100% accurate. Just does my head in with people just blindly accepting whatever they read on social media and assuming it is true. He also has form for linking to questionable sources and is totally obsessed by it for some weird reason.
Why is a drop in cases, against a backdrop of rising cases in other countries, not getting the same airtime? Is that not questionable? We’re quick to compare ourselves to everyone else when things appear to be out of control, but not the other way round. Report rises like the world is going to end, but never when it decreases. Is that a media agenda? I’m not sure but it’s safe to say it’s not fair on us as a society. Especially when some countries that have gone further than ‘Plan B’ are trending in a different direction to us.
The reporting continues to be poor, it merits discussion as you point out, many countries have different restrictions and numbers are rising. Most of what we have seen is short if the harsh lockdowns restrictions do little. We saw cases continue to rise in Scotland and Wales at a higher rate than England despite mask mandates remaining in place for example.
I agree it should be discussed, but perhaps by using reputable sources for it not some randomer on Twitter with 150 followers. I'm not going to take anything like that seriously and I would be exactly the same if the tweet was saying the total opposite. Having seen the BBC website it does look like cases have dropped, however we have just had a half term break so will be interesting to see what happens in the coming couple of weeks.
The account was created over 11 years ago so did well to know to sign up to spread covid lies long before the rest of us had heard of it. Covid cases have been going down since before half term. We should all be shouting it from the roof tops and be happy about it. But the media only want to peddle fear so stay quiet about it. Far too many in the media and medical profession have enjoyed covid too much.
Absolutely charming. Nurses and other healthcare professionals have been swamped for the past 18 months, some of which have died due to caring for you and your families and you have the cheek to come out with **** like this. Listen to yourself.
It should be more than discussed. It should be demanded. Why? The second cases are back on the rise, or there’s even a hint of a hospital being full, the usual media reporting will commence. It has to work both ways. It’s a weak, one sided story. I don’t care where insight and stats come from, provided they’re supported with their source. I downloaded some official European data two weeks ago and did the maths myself to prove that our testing to positive cases ratio wasn’t the worst in Europe and behind countries being heralded as the shining example. I’m not reputable, but the data was. Sadly on the link shared here it doesn’t say where the data came from and that’s really important.
Prime example of this. The Guardian, less than two weeks ago putting Germany on a pedestal as the country to be envious of, pedalling fear around our own case numbers (which had started to decline at the point of the article), but now completely silent on Germany hitting their highest ever seven day average for cases. But even that isn’t a story, unless hospitalisation and deaths are where we were 12 months ago. The media have a lot to answer for and how they’ve behaved the last 18 months.
I don't mean the wonderful staff we never hear about who day after day work hard, including a relative of mine. I am on about those in the medical profession nobody had heard of pre covid but after spouting negativity and fear for over 18 months on the TV and in newspapers they are now richer than they have ever been from getting themselves TV shows, releasing books etc. They have milked an awful situation to boost their profile and are now milking it for cash through other avenues.
Works both ways by the way. There’s enough people posting similar incorrect facts in support of more lockdowns, vaccine passports, etc. There’s professional people manipulating figures they know aren’t robust or accurate, but suit their agenda. Awful era to live in media wise.
