Overseas appointment likely

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  1. onemickybutler

    onemickybutler Well-Known Member

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    It'll be another from the footballing hotbed of Austria no doubt......
     
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    Turnover is significantly lower in the division below. But the potential for profit? I would argue it's difficult if not impossible to turn a profit in The Championship and field a team capable of comfortably avoiding relegation. In League 1? I think it's a lot easier.
     
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    Completely agree MT. If true I think it shows that they are again prioritising future compensation value over staying up. As you say, I much prefer the less risky option of a known firefighter.
     
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    Morais - terrible
    Stendel - great during league one, but didn't adapt to championship - although recruitment gave him a team of kids so hardly surprising
    Struber - kept us up against the odds (superb) but started next season badly
    Big Val - awesome
    Schopp - terrible

    I reckon thats three out of five who achieved their objective (and Val that way exceeded it)

    The turnover doesn't give us much stability thats for sure, a new head coach every year
     
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    Why does it minimise our chances of staying up? And please don't say 'well they don't know the league', because that hasn't stopped 100's of other foreign managers being a success at this level.

    I honestly think if the right candidate was British, we'd appoint them, but clearly the board feel there's a better option elsewhere.
     
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    They didn't.
     
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    I don’t care where they come from as long as they appoint the best man or woman for the job
     
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    Have I just made this up? Wasn't it mentioned a few times after recent appointments that the new head coach had been on the club's radar before and/or interviewed. ?!?

    If so then chances are that the new gaffer will have already been identified.
     
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    Will the new appointment have been their Number 1 choice since they took over in December 2017? :D
     
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    Stendel was said to be our 3rd choice, behind Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp, and was approached prior to Morais, but wasn't available.

    Then Struber was said to be the target before Stendel but wasn't available at the time.

    I don't recall what was said prior to Big Val, however the club did confirm that Darren Moore wasn't a target, but had been before Struber.

    If I remember rightly, prior to Schopp, they said a number of targets were being considered, and Schopp was chosen.

    I guess they've an idea of who they want, but it depends whether they're readily available or not. For example, I'd have liked Rob Edwards, but is he likely to even be considered given his current contract is barely 6 months old.

    I certainly think there's an element of spin to make it look like we've got our number one choice all along.
     
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    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    If its Hannes Wolf will Jedi make him a member of New Lodge Club?
     
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    Already answered here

    It's a time-critical appointment, and we're maximising the red-tape challenges whilst guaranteeing a minimal level of relevant experience of this division and this situation within the available pool of candidates.

    That's not the route I'd choose to go down if my #1 aim for the season was avoiding relegation.
     
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    That's a fair point, and I hadn't realised you'd answered already.

    I suppose though it depends who the appointment is. I'd imagine with his 50 international caps, Schopp had no issues with visa's. Or maybe an appointment from outside the EU?
     
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    We all knew that didn't we, despite hoping for a different approach. I doubt any decent current British based coach would be interested in coming and working under the current restrictions we advertise in place. In turn our ownership would have no interest in anyone who won't work within that framework or that would cost more in wages.
     
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    If I was in charge I'd be trying to get Warnock in right now. He's the safest bet at keeping us up.

    I've got no problem with the idea of an overseas appointment generally, but it's riskier. We're a few bad results away from being relegation certainties.

    The new appointment could be another Val.... but I'm sceptical. They're going to try and get another coach with an "attractive" footballing approach, and that isn't the route to success for us. My confidence in the board's decision making is also shaken somewhat by the worst manager in our history having just taken us from a playoff team to a disaster.

    I also think the board are going down this route as they see it as "doing something different" etc. They've got no idea if it'll work. It's an ideological thing.
     
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    They did... Fined it and prove me wrong
     
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    Do ya think.
     
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    Odd comment considering three of the last five have been excellent.
     
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    I've searched about 5 players on Google, the only one that proves you right is the sale of Ethan Pinnock.

    Paul Conway said: All proceeds from the sale will be reinvested in the squad in this transfer window.

    After Jacob Brown was sold, the statement said: "Monies received upfront will be immediately reinvested into the team", which suggests any installments won't necessarily be reinvested into the team.

    After the sale of Brad Potts, Gauthier Gayane eludes to some money going into transfers, some going into securing the future of the club: "We have made a significant profit on this transfer which brings long-term sustainability to the club and allows us to reinvest short-term in the squad"

    I also checked Kieffer Moore and Marcel Ritzmaier, and neither statement eludes to what we're doing with the money gained from them.

    So it's not quite "every penny".
     
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    I'm more worried about the lack of a coaching team at the club and if this can be sorted with the new visa rules. We look so poorly organised, I think a lot of work needs to be done on the training ground.
     

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