Effort is definitely an issue is the point I'm making. You can't tell me that everyone is putting in the same amount of effort as last season. We look a shadow of the team. Players aren't entirely to blame though. We've got rid of one of the problems, but fitness is very much an issue for me
You seem to be putting fitness and effort in the same category. I’m not arguing that they are or aren’t as fit as they should be, I’m saying that there has not been an apparent lack of effort by anyone this season whether they’ve played good, bad or indifferent
We'll just have to agree to disagree then mate. Plus they can't put as much effort in as they don't seem to be fit enough. They go hand in hand.
Not necessarily, in fact I’d say, if you’re not very fit but you give your all and leave everything out on the pitch, it’s more acceptable than if you’re very fit and you haven’t left everything on the pitch
But we're talking about professional athletes. If you're not fit in the first place, you can't put the required amount of effort in. Also, if you're not fit, then you shouldn't be anywhere near the first team.
So you never get a chance to be ‘match fit’ then? However, My point is about deliberately not putting it in, there’s a world of difference between can’t and won’t, but you know that and are just trying to twist my argument. Just for clarification I have not seen a game this season where players have lacked effort.
