Booster Jabs

That will do for me.

 

But if the poster can't get the basic geography of the place right, how can you trust anything else they say about it?

 

A lad I work with nearly died after having the jab due to a side effect which enlarged his heart, he now has life long issues from his voice changing to having scarring on his heart and diaphragm. So yeah I can see why people are wary of having the jab

 

So regardless of the status of someone (age, health, creed etc) every single person in the world loses antibodies at the same speed and every single person needs yet another jab after six months no questions asked without being offered an antibody test first to see if someone really needs it.

Billions around the world haven't had one life saving jab and we are already on to a third when people will have a high level of protection from two jabs and the likelyhood that most people have knowingly or unknowingly had covid.

 

Are you really arguing against a study published in the Lancet, based purely on your guesses, gut feelings and straw man arguments?

 

Me and Laura had our booster this morning. Fully vaccinated now. We'd both been putting it off but heard about possibility of pass ports coming in properly. Thought might as well get it over with.

 

No I am saying it's wrong we are on to giving people third jabs who may or may not have an high level of protection (we just assume nobody does without finding out first) when billions in other countries are at high risk from not being offered one jab yet.

 

The study did find it out. Have you read it?

 

It's laughable how you bounce from one viewpoint to another. If we had a huge spike in cases and had to lock down for weeks on end to reduce NHS pressures because immunity from the vaccines had waned, you'd be whingeing that we didn't secure boosters quick enough and talking about the impact on the economy against the price of vaccines.

Literally impossible to please you. I suggest you find another hobby instead of being obsessed with this 24/7.

 

I said this about a year ago I think but dreamboy appears to easily swayed by the last thing he read. Unfortunately, a lot of what he reads is from really **** sources.

 

what about austria mandating everyone has to get the vaccine? Nope its real.

 

Reminds me of this guy:

 

now stop it with factual information it’ll never catch on

 

All the data points to the vaccines working. Seems to me having a booster is a very sensible precaution as we head into winter. Some people may not need it some will, but I imagine it's just easier and quicker to give it to everyone in those groups.

 

This is a fantastic reply, Gally, and a template we can all try and learn from.

You acknowledged your own bias, offered factual, non condescending information to address the opposing viewpoint and finished with offering useful and practical advice based on the desires of the poster you were replying to.

 

It's been less easy to get Boosters than it was for jabs one and two. My parents live in Wath and got jabs one and two by walking to a local hall. I had to take them to Rotherham town centre late at night for their booster. The mother-in-law had jabs one and two at her strictly socially distanced GP surgery, but has to go to a Boots presumably full of shoppers for the booster. I do wonder how other people in their 70s and 80s without access to their own or a family vehicle have managed. I'm booked in at Priory Campus rather than somewhere in my home village as well. The flu rollout hasn't helped, but what happened to getting flu and Covid jabs at the same time?

 

The jabs do not last for ever that is why you have to have another every 6 months or whatever like having the flu jab every year. I presume eventually they may get one that lasts a lifetime

 

That is an extremely odd way of presenting that data and, frankly, very misleading. It completely ignores how unlikely you are to be hospitalised if you're already double vaccinated.

Another way to present the data which does not:

There were 728,321 individuals in each group. The first group were double vaccinated, the second group had a third booster vaccination.

In the first group 231 individuals were admitted to hospital during the study. 0.03171% of the group.
So, to make the same claims as this paper, being double vaccinated is 99.968% effective at keeping you out of hospital.

In the second group 29 individuals were admitted to hospital. 0.00398% of the group.
So, again to make the same claim as this paper, being triple vaccinated is 99.996% effective at keeping you out of hospital.

A change in effectiveness up from 99.968% to 99.996% is, as the claim, an increase in effectiveness of 90+%, but 90% of next to nothing is still next to nothing.

By all means, get the booster, I wouldn't attempt to argue anyone against it, but although the maths in this study adds up, it doesn't tell the story people think it does.