New variant found in UK

On the contrary, Jay just seems to have a reasonable understanding of the numbers, and that there are various medical/scientific voices who have been urging calm and a sensible/proportionate response to the situation at hand, who have found themselves marginalised and demonised simply because they don’t share the doomsday outlook preferred by those in receipt of Bill and Melinda’s largesse and a chunk of the public that seems incapable of sensibly assessing risk, all of which has helped propel the Govt response.

He’s thus avoided getting swept up by the media’s fear porn, and the resultant mass hysteria which appears to influence thinking like yours, and in fairness has also pushed a woefully incompetent political class and their advisers to panic and overreact at every stage. It’s now little more than a pandemic of the easy-led and hard of thinking, driven I’m afraid by the selfish, the cowardly, and the hypochondriacal. The maniacs in the ‘Nudge Unit’ responsible for the psychological warfare that’s been waged on the public since this all started in earnest should be in line for enormous Christmas bonuses, as I suspect their success has exceeded even their own wildest predictions.

Like Jay, I have no issue at all with people who wish to take the vaccine and never-ending boosters if that makes them feel safer, even though it would seem the jab doesn’t stop people from catching it, transmitting it, and (where susceptible) suffering from and indeed dying from it, while we still have literally zero idea what the long-term effects are going to be. What’s also clear is that healthy folk of working age didn’t really need the vaccine, given the low risk to most of any significant consequences from the virus, and that forcing it into kids of any age is a despicable act.

Similarly I recognise there’s a group of people who may be extremely vulnerable to the wu-flu, and as such will need appropriate support/protection when such an illness is doing the rounds, but this too has to be proportionate and sensible, and pretty much nothing the Govt has done to date fits that description.

The way so many appear to have immediately embraced the Govt’s volte face on restrictions, and in some cases called for yet more, is both terrifying and depressing in equal measure.

 

yup you’ve been done your ‘research’ and both know more than virologists and epidemiologists and have uncovered a world wide conspiracy that involves almost all doctors, nurses and govts.

Another nut job for the ignore list.

 

Did you really just call it "the wu-flu"?

Someone else on here I shouldn't pay any attention to...

 

Probably cos they have bought millions of pounds worth of vaccines which could now be useless. They would either have to bin them or use them to get rid.

I see Moderna are now getting greedy. Their CEO just said the jabs may not be effective - the upshot is they'll need to make a new one which governments will have to procure once again. It's a golden goose that will keep on giving for them. Wait while folk have to pay for them - lets see how many are rocking up every 3-6 months for a booster.

There was also a report out recently that the data is highlighting a massive increase in heart attack risk (13% to 25% i think it was) from inflammation caused by mRNA jabs - yet we want to keep jabbing indiscriminately. I just can't agree with it when there are so many red flags around with myocarditis and pericarditis.

https://www.thecardiologyadvisor.co...syndrome-acs-biomarkers-mrna-covid19-vaccine/

 

I'm surprised either of you had the time to respond, I thought you'd be on your way to Henny Penny's house by now to warn her of the impending doom.

 

Covid isn't flu. You compared it to the flu. Your opinion means jack.

 

If we do the same it might save our season.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/bayern-munich-fans-covid-cases-b1966823.html

 

Only chance we've got is if we actually start playing fans instead of the actual players

 

I've had Covid and I've had flu. The symptoms were different but they both had me ill in bed for 2 weeks. On balance, I would say flu was slightly the more unpleasant of the two in my opinion.

Why can he not compare Covid to flu though? They are both coronaviruses which affect the respiratory system and have fairly comparable mortality rates. I would say any comparison between Covid and flu is pretty reasonable and valid.

 

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2020/no-covid-19-is-not-the-flu

 

Is covid 19 flu?

 

No its not flu... But it is a comparable coronavirus. You implied that the two can't or shouldn't be compared.

A wolf is not a dog but that doesn't mean they don't share similarities that make comparisons between the two possible.

 

Tom Selleck and Hitler, both have/had moustaches.

 

I'm human and you're human, I'm guessing we'd both hate to be compared.

Also, it's not flu.

 

That's a very astute observation. They also had brown hair, two arms, two legs etc so we could reasonably have a conversation comparing their many similarities and contrasting their obvious differences.

See... DavidCurriesMullet gets it.

 

This thread has rumbled on long enough. We should all listen to Johnny boy

 

Wrong, one had black hair was short and liked to kill minority groups.
The other is over 6ft wore short denim shorts, could have been Indiana Jones, and doesn't have a longing to massacre people

 

You were suggesting that there was no need for population wide vaccinations though.

 

On the contrary... I wouldn't have any objections to being favourably compared to you.

By the way, you do realise that influenza, like Covid, is responsible for the deaths of many elderly people, particularly those with serious health issues (apart from 2020 when it had the year off to give Covid its turn). The obvious difference is that we have never bothered to do a daily case rate and death count for flu like we have had the pleasure of for Covid.

I am full agreement though that Covid is not flu.

 

No, sorry... It was definitely brown