Cannon Hall

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  1. Ome

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    I read about Sheffield having the woke brigade go after some of the street names and Cannon Hall was one of em. Looked up our Cannon Hall and that indeed was linked with the slave trade.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/content/articles/2007/02/08/abolition_cannon_hall_feature.shtml

    Wonder if that's how the two pubs the Spenders Arms and Spencer Arms at Cawthorne and Barugh got their names as the guys involved in Cannon Hall were the Spencer brothers - John and Benjamin. I know Cawthorne one did but not sure about the Barugh one which is now an Indian takeaway.
     
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    Me n mi mate were ont top ot tarn Hall in Barnsley.
    Mate sez. " I can see cawthorne park from here "
    I sez " Ar can n'all"
     
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  3. nezbfc

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    Mmm. Not sure based in that link. It doesn't suggest that cannon hall was built or indeed maintained off the back of the slave trade.

    I'm not entirely sure what your suggesting or anyone should do.

    Bulldoze the place?
     
  4. Mr Badger

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    What you do is accept it as history and unchangeable. Nowt you can do.
     
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    Nah I'm all for history being history. You cant change the past but you can learn from it. Just saw they had been discussing it in Sheffield and there have refused to change the names of the streets there so good on them.
     
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    They should complain about how small their cakes are for £3.50.
     
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    I didn't think you would be, but these days you can't really tell.

    Im not aware of what the street name thing is. So I'll check it out. Even if just to broaden my own mind

    I seem to be becoming more sentimental and aware of things the older I get and learn.

    I hated history at school, and find myself drawn to it more and more.

    In fact I'd quite happily go through secondary school again. And this time take it seriously lol
     
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    Walton Hall was built on slave money too, we bulldozing that too?
     
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    Linked with the slave trade in that one of the owners was an anti slavery campaigner and mates with William Wilberforce
    according to that article one resident lasting 20 years had links with the slave trade, its hardly built on the back of slave money

    But even if it was as others have said you cant change history - I can see an argument for changing a street name if commemorates a slaver though not sure I agree with the argument, but what are you going to do with a stately home thats most definitely not named after a slave trader - answer is nothing
     
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    Good that local schoolchildren are getting to know about the background of slavery through local history.
     
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    Smashing breakfast there last week though. I don't know about whether they were involved with the slave trade but I'm sure, like most of these things, the current owners weren't and probably find the idea deplorable like the rest of us.
     
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    Was that Cannon Hall? Or Cannon Hall farm shop?
     
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    There is a link, before they were mates with Wilberforce. There's been an explanation of it for years in the Hall (dining room if I remember) there was even a ship active in the slave trade that was named Cannon Hall.
     
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    stopped reading at 'woke brigade'
     
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    But you can do something now. You can tell the history of the building/estate warts and all, often the source of wealth when it's a bit unpalatable is hidden. No idea about the history of Cannon Hall, but I'd imagine there are very few wealthy families from those times who didn't either directly or indirectly benefit from the slave trade.
     
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    Nobody is bulldozing anything.
     
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    Farm shop. Brilliant range of excellent food. But the table full of £3.50 cakes like carrot, lemon drizzle and chocolate orange aren't that big.
     
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    Yes, you can look at it like the slave trade drove British commerce as North Sea revenues did in 70's, 80's and 90's.
     
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    Ah ok mate, I know folk think Cannon Hall Farm belongs to Cannon Hall when in fact they are totally separate, My Mrs works at Cannon hall farm and she’s had to deal with abuse from customers because people whinge at the price of parking at cannon hall…until she explains they’re nothing to do with each other, :)
     
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    You mean to say you didn't marry in to money with a lady who owns all that land so gets to pick herself how much parking is :D
     

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