Political Positions

Isidewith is much more accurate

 

That is actually a sound idea. I bet nobody on here has a Millwall login though .... @Baka, do you? I'd attempt it, but a bit dodgy it being my first post.

 

I've done others where you are given actual policies and you select the one which you think best. The problem is, they takes ages to do and any misunderstanding of a subject may change your position slightly too. I'm proud to say I always come out on the left though.

 

No surprises there

 

They have two forums now. A public one, and a 'members' forum where you have to be vetted by an admin and no one without this can read what's said.

Basically, a forum to be as racist and fascist as they like without getting in trouble with 'the plod'.

 

I proudly describe myself as solidly left and always will.

However, the questions there are largely engineered to bring any decent person out left! We then have to evaluate how we define left and right.

I've always said that Politics should be a compulsory GCSE, taught in a subjective fashion as RE is.

And every voter should test themselves with a blind policy test before they decide.

Really, we're only a democracy in that we have the right to vote. The level of understanding around economics and the role of the state and who seeks to control it is disgracefully poor.

We're reduced to hot dog, ties and Peppa Pig speeches being the rationale to vote, not evidenced manifestos and agendas for seeking power.

People trot out the ******** that voting is a private thing, not to be discussed in case Aunty Pat doesn't agree. That is the most anti-democratic attitude there is. We should all discuss, debate, educate and learn and have conviction in our choices.

 

Millwall *should* be just like us ... working class, fighting (bad choice of words) for what's right.

 

Your Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.36

 

I was after a bullseye. Not bad for a first attempt.

 

I agree there, I thought I would have come out more to the right than Genghis Khan. But it actually brought me out left.
Just goes to show how far left some have swung in this country and consider it normal.
When, no matter how it's dressed up, it's just extremism..

 

I answered the extreme opposite of what I actually think on every question and came out with this. Not sure how you get it any further to the right, I'll maybe have another go later.

 

I'm not sure what you're calling extremism...

But is wanting water, gas, electricity, the railways and healthcare to be funded and run wholly publically extremist?

Healthy public services and good employment rights set in the interests of ordinary people makes up what most of my 'comrades' consider to be the crux of their left wing beliefs.

 

You have go pretty far to be classed as extreme left, whereas you don't have to go that far to the right...

 

I think on the whole the British have a similar way of thinking. I honestly believe people's political viewpoints don't differ that alarmingly until flashpoints such as Brexit, Covid etc. That's when you find out peoples' true extremes.

If you break politics down into common values of people for example a mantra. I'd like to be treated how I treat others. I don't feel we're that different. It's when you get into the nitty gritty and people's idiosyncrasies impeaching on their political views and where lines get blurred you have problems.

The comment about manifesto's is a good one. If parties did set their manifesto's out from the beginning. That was how they would do it no matter what. You'd have a clear line of what you were voting for and wouldn't have to give a sometimes skewed reasoning of which way you voted. You could just point to points on a manifesto and say to anybody scrutinising you there's reason x,y and z no need for discussion.

That's the problem at the minute. Other factors that bring in people's values and beliefs get brought in to the way they should be perceived to vote. I should vote Labour religiously because my Dad was apprentice at South Kirkby pit for example.

My own natural leaning would be Liberal and to sit on the fence and take out the best bits of each parties manifesto. It's classed as cherry picking. However, in all my years I believe that the first party to do that in a genuine manifesto will provide the most level playing field we've ever had. I'm more for coalition if truth be known because I feel that party system wastes good political minds pitting them against one another and some not seeing office.

 

I came across this article on google:

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/why-does-england-vote-tory/

 

Similarly I got to the top line but not much further right. I reckon even Hitler wouldn't get in the top right hand corner.

 

I don't think you're meant to. It heightens the point about society. I don't feel we're as extreme or not extreme as we perceive each other to be. It's a good experiment.

 

Great post.