Efl players refused to have vac

I've done plenty. Can you?

Show me where vaccines stop transmission? Show me where vaccines definitely stop mutations. Show me where vaccines passports have been effective. Show me how this virus is a threat to people under 50 who are in good health. Show me how this Omicron variant is more severe than any other. Show me absolutely why footballers need to be vaccinated to be allowed to do their jobs. Show me the cost/benefit of it all. Show me why its worth shutting down the NHS for all other illnesses except COVID. Put me a paper together and I'll read it, Dr Churton.

 

Because that information is not correct...younger people are less likely to suffer badly...but they can, the son of a friend of ours caught it in the first wave in Italy, he is a 6 foot six University rower, he spent ten weeks in bed and a year later had not fully recovered....a 21 year old friend had five months off work with Covid, prior to catching it he was extremely fit and was on the point of joining the Submarine Service...he failed the medical due to the effects of Covid on his heart, he has still not fully recovered, he told me a few weeks ago that when he lays down to sleep his heart area actually hurts.

 

I saw yesterday where 3 million people in London have not had one vaccination.. 1 in 3 not going aswell as Witty and Borris are saying me thinks..

 

The problem is MD we can't force people to get vaccinated, only educate and encourage...where I live we have one particular Church with a congregation of 300 unvaccinated people simply because the Pastor who runs it says no.

 

I was going to ask the same question.

But yes of course they should be allowed to play.

I'm pro vaccine but by choice. Forcing people to have vaccines is a dangerous position to take.

 

I agree but as said by someone else in todays world there are as many negative as positive stories, it’s that leads to people not being sure

 

I'm in favour of people voluntarily having a Covid vaccine, but I know it's not 100% effective in all people. No vaccine is 100% effective in stopping transmission of anything. However they do reduce the chance of somebody catching a disease. There's a growing body of evidence that Covid vaccines also provide greater protection against serious illness, but you can still get seriously ill even if double jabbed with a booster on top.

 

I'd dispute that. I think there are some negative stories but fewer than the positive outcome stories. Without coming over as patronising, if you're not sure about something and there's conflicting view points check the source and volume of the viewpoints if you can before coming to an opinion.

 

People are seriously getting their Covid news and views from Matt Le Tissier and Bryan Roy.

Stop the world, I want to get off.

 

I'm not for forcing anyone into anything mate.. No one should be thought any less of if they refuse. I've had both jabs but no booster..

 

Sorry MD, I wasn't suggesting you were...just making an observation.

 

This^^^ @Ik311

 

As I said in another post. I'm not an expert. So I did some googling and the expert opinion seems to be that vaccination at a high percentage level is a good thing.
Trust me, if I ever need surgery I'll be letting an expert do it rather than someone like you Notadoctor Pinball.

 

I don't think hand washing and mask wearing prevented so many cases of flu (thousands) that would normally occur to such a degree that the figures weren't even worth reporting, while at the same time causing c-19 virus cases to be off the scale, it doesn't add up. Flu programmes were basically off the table for a year, and bizarrely they are suddenly back at the same time the Omicron tsunami sweeps the nation. We are back to mask wearing and we still wash our hands, so why isn't flu off the table again, surely it would be the same as last year by comparison, if we use that methodology?

 

Flu cases were low last year because all the measures in place to combat COVID (social distancing, masks, lockdowns, tier 3 restrictions before that, working from home, schools being closed) were also extremely effective at reducing flu transmission. Seasonal influenza has similar transmission routes to COVID but is much less infectious, so those measures largely eliminated it whereas they only slowed down COVID. Plus we only tend to test for flu in specific high risk settings (hospitals, care homes etc). So it wasn’t that there was no flu at all last year, it was just at very low levels and we detected only a fraction of it anyway.

This winter the landscape is very different - schools (which are a massive driver of flu [and COVID!] transmission) have been open since September, the pubs and shops are all open, no rule of 6, no mask wearing, much less working from home. So lots of opportunities for respiratory viruses to spread, which’s is why we’re seeing more flu this year than last year, as well as really high rates of COVID.

You’ll obviously have your own views on jabs, restrictions, masks, lockdowns etc, but at no point throughout the entire pandemic have large numbers of flu cases been counted as COVID, nor do tests mistake flu for COVID.

 

Only because there’s as many thick people as there are clever ones.

The human race is on a hiding to nothing if we can’t get a handle on the spreading of misinformation for malicious purposes.

 

Tomorrow he's going to see Paul Merson for mortgage advice.

 

You never told us you'd moved to Alabama!

 

Same waver for smokers, fatties, anyone who drinks alcohol, sunbathes etc?