Get Boosted Now & ignore the last week.

Those deaths are a reflection of infections from 3 or 4 weeks ago. You know that perfectly well though.

 

Staff absences in all front line services increasing daily.
Not got any pie or bar charts, so guess I'll be told to get back in my box.
Anyways it'll all be fine, emergency workers grow on trees.

 

It's ok. Some people make up their own figures in this thread. They just stick a few ? ? ? here and there as a get out, just in case someone checks.

 

Is there an argument for not forcing asymptomatic NHS workers to isolate considering they should all be vaccinated, be wearing masks and be practicing the best hand washing and PPE practices anyway?

 

We dont need ambulances they're overrated. Same with fire and rescue. Find some water fire goes out, RTA no problem just get a few fellow drivers to push the car and occupants into a ditch and sweep up the glass. Oil on your tyres helps you to go faster into bends.
Border control, we don't need that. We've already took back control, the PM said so.
Who needs police and a justice system, vigilante justice worked well before it can again.
Nurses are just lazy, all they do is clean up. Cleaners clean too much, was always told a bit of dirt does your open wound no harm.
Folk are lazy, no need for porters. Make em hobble or crawl.
Doctors, they're like scientists can't be trusted.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...cron-variant-arrive-in-uk-and-is-it-spreading

Our first case found three weeks ago on November 27th so this is the week then....Big deaths and big hospital increases.....If we don't see that happening very soon SAGE are going to look stupid with yet another of their predictions.

The scaremongering for something with less than 100 people in hospital with is barmy. There has been a slight increase in hospital numbers but it's winter flu season so that would have happened without covid. People should be looking forward to making up for a poor Christmas last year, not worrying about Omicron. If we get even more restrictions it will harm future vaccination numbers because more people will wonder what the point is if being jabbed doesn't mean we can carry on as normal by learning to live with it.

 

The issue with cutting corners on testing would I'm sure lead to an individual trust being sued if things went south.
Not like this government's had 20 months to implement a world beating test and trace system. Yet here we are where health care staff aren't at the front of the queue and the system is still clunky.
You'd think for all the debt linked to that system we'd all have access to something which worked.

 

This is what I mean. You just will not accept there’s any downside, so I don’t see how you think you’re making objective recommendations.

 

Nonsense. Nowhere have I said there's no downside. Only a fool would argue that. I just happen to think the balance of the argument lies with public health protection. I respect your right to think otherwise, but I don't.

 

In fairness, at least for me I think public health is destroyed by lockdowns too.

 

In fairness; how do you think the lack of lockdowns would work?

 

Better than Imposing devastating, divisive & authoritarian restrictions on the public.

 

Oh, I don’t know, I mean it’s unprecedented isn’t it, not having lockdowns. I can’t find any blueprint for not having lockdowns over the last 5000 years of human history.

 

Why have we left the decision making to the brightest virologists on the planet when a couple of random football fans had the answer all along?

You’ve convinced me!

 

We haven't have we.
A. I think it's very conceited and arrogant to think that England has the brightest virologists on the planet.
And more importantly B. The decision making hasn't been by the brightest virologists, it's been by this guy...

 

I never mentioned Britain.
So what other leading economies haven’t locked down at some point?

 

Generally speaking in a discussion about English covid restrictions when someone says we in regards to restrictions they mean our restrictions not someone else's.

It's like posting in a matchday thread that we are doing really well while losing 3 nil and when picked up on it you reply with 'i never mentioned Barnsley, I meant Leicester city'

 

Sorry you missed the context.
As a nearly 60 year old socialist, having slagged off this Tory government continuously since joining this board, I find it pretty amazing that anyone would see me write ‘we’ and assume I was siding with the current U.K. government.

I can not imagine how small one’s outlook would need to be to see COVID as a singularly British issue.

Our government have dealt with this appallingly, but to assume that the right thing to do is obviously the opposite is simply just as bad (if not worse).

 

Ah I see we've reached that point in the discussion. You should have probably just started with that would have saved time.

 

https://archive.md/aP3Cx

Great read from the Telegraph. The government have no right to get involved in our lives to the level of telling us when and where we can see someone, if at all. The roadmap that was irreversible has already been shown as a lie.