It's the covenant...

Donkey Kong.

 

Isn’t Lee (Li) the most common surname in the world? It’s as common in China as Jones is in Wales.

Not saying it’s not a relative, but sharing a common surname isn’t a big clue.

edit: looked it up, it’s the 2nd most common.

 

Yea they could.

But more likely OCA (aka JC and the council) are or were expecting to sell their part. Or at least the one of the 50 percents share in order to build a new stand or update it was the 6 month option to buy.

Now they can't sell it for whatever reason, they won't update anything because they say it's the lease holders.

And to be fair, if you were the 80 percenters why would you pay for a new stand on anything you don't own.

Hence, my constant referral to the 3 of them getting their heads out of their arses because the club and fans are suffering from their stances

 

Never said it was a big clue did I?
I asked an individual who has a better insight into the club than me a question, which he will choose to either answer or not.

If you have an insight into the question then great……

 

This, irrelevant of who people are at fault for what the reality is until it’s resolved it’s the club and fans that are and will suffer.

 

Dickson Lee. I think he was reported to be Chien's son when the takeover went through.

 

Dickson Kong Lee is an American national, born September 1997. He is a director of Barnsley Football and was appointed at the time of the take-over, he is not listed as a director of BFC investments.

I don’t think it is too big a stretch of the imagination that Dickson is a close relation of Chien.

 

Thanks, I got that off Companies House.
Main reason for asking was he’s the only director I don’t recall being mention on here as one of the owners.

 

He’s not an owner. He is listed as a director of Barnsley Football Club. This in turn is 100% owned by BFC investments and he is not a director of that entity.

I got a train set off my dad, this lad got a directorship at a championship football club.

 

looking at the covenant from what John Dennis wrote, once the last surviving grandchild goes then in approx 40 to 50 years time that's no longer they case. As to the mineral rights, it may be if it goes to court the ones that registered an interest may be overturned, a bit like when people bought up the domain names in the internet of companies and famous celebs.

 

Someone posted probably around 2 years ago
The house where he lived the details in Florida Miami
presume same as the electoral roll over here.
there was him ,a woman's name and 3 other people living there
D.K. Lee was one of those names.
that would lead you to believe it was his family

 

The consortium have been taken to court for non payment, defaulting on instalment payments
As far as i am aware they haven't paid one instalment of the five payment plan ?
this goes back 3 /4 years.

According to the Crynes court documents
they completely ignored requests for payments asking Conway about them were told ,nothing to do with me get in touch with Hong Kong.
then after ghosting them for 18 months received a email/letter asking if they could extend the payment time and lower the payments.
the Crynes agreed and.... still no payments hence the court preceding's.

years later they told the press after another party was interested in buying the ground etc
they wanted to buy it and had the money.

which is strange as they didn't seem to have the money to make the payments for the club.
if you sold someone something and years later they still hadn't paid for it and they asked you if they could buy something else for millions of pounds of you
what would you say
i am sure every one would say sure no problem, sign here.

bear in mind they technically own 80 % without actually paying for anything like 80 %.
half ?
if BFC had got to the premier league and a legit billionaire bought the club for lets say 100 mil
they would receive 80% and that would still apply if they sold the club tomorrow for whatever amount.

For what its worth which is nothing i believe there strategy now will be do just that, sell the club without actually buying it as the crynes are trying/blocking the payment using club funds route
they will never pay those instalments out of there own pockets
without even getting into if they even have anything in there pockets


How exactly are they planning to pay for stand/ground developments hotels etc
when they don't seem to even have the money to even pay for the instalments and the club seems in a perilous state money wise.

OCG Nice
We are going to bring investment, sponsorship, build hotels ,work with the local council to better the area etc
4/5 years later
investment none
sponsorship none ,in fact the team didn't have a main shirt sponsor for there tenure they used a free one(charity)
the old shirt sponsor was gotten rid of as they told the then president they had sponsorship lined up to go if they took over.
that never materialised.
Hotels none ,no planning applications no bettering of the surrounding area .

BFC
We are going to bring investment , sponsorship ,work with the local council, better the local area Hotels ? etc
based and using on our world wide business reach especially the Asian market
4 plus years later sweet F.A on all counts.

different club same b.o.l.l.o.c.k.s

 

Thats shocking and some wonder why fans are starting up groups etc to get shut of these leeches.

 

I think they're looking for an exit strategy without putting a single penny of their own money into the club.

 

This is the interesting thing, the crux really. Is there some genuine impediment that has thwarted the 80%'s plans, or are they making a mountain out of a molehill to avoid paying what they agreed to do?
This leads us all to speculate.
Were they genuine and been thwarted by the dastardly plan of the Senior family from beyond the grave?
Has something else we don't know about gone wrong?
Was there never a plan and they were just carpetbaggers?
Are they the vanguard of an alien invasion and sought to undermine civilization but made a gross miscalculation of the wider cultural significance of our club? (Perhaps they studied press reports and now realise they should have landed at Turf Moor).

 

Where I'm a bit lost is that if there is a third party with rights to the land then that surely has to be publicly available even if it is extremely hard to find. If it is publicly available then surely there is absolutely no reason why the charlatans can't state who and what the third party is. It isn't as though a court will say 'you told people the public knowledge that the senior family have a right to the ground therefore we rule against you' and if such a legal right exists then it isn't as though the person would lose their right to the ground by their name being spoken

 

Exactly the same experience as me. Mineral rights cropped up on the house purchase in Wilthorpe I have just made.

Had to pay for an indemnity policy only about £60 for life.

But I dogged deeper with my solicitor on what it meant.

Basically doesn't stop me developing my property and building on the land. However were I for example to build say one of those huge wind turbines, I could due to the depth of the foundations needed for that cause issue.

Also had a strange one on my property where I can't convert the property to a chippy. Darn that covenant.

So yeah something like a new stand for instance could possibly lead to the same issue at Oakwell.

 

So the OGC Nice situation. How did they build the new training facilities over there with zero investment? Was that already in place from a previous regime?

 

Not only was investment already in place but the thing was already being built before they took ownership. The just claimed credit for it

 

They did claim credit for it for sure. Never bother looking into it apart from seeing the facilities are well impressive. But in the first QnA they did, they cited it as one of the things they improved at Nice.