Covid passes

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  1. Gally

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    I've seen those headlines but the guidance talks about expected capacity at the event in question not based on the capacity of the stadium. As usual, confusion reigns :)
     
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    Mainly because he's lied about the source of the quote. He's got it from the athletic football website (complete with bold text) but claimed he's got it from the government website when he hasn't.
     
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    COVID pass - the one which goes through the vacant space on the pitch where the isolating player would have been....
     
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    Is there anything on govt website. All the reporting seems quite vague and I can’t find anything conclusive either way.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/...-000-fans-as-government-plans-approved-by-mps
     
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    I guess the key word is ‘expected’ most home games we’d will expect more than 10000 yesterday we could reasonably claim we didn’t. Not sure how we stand on the 4000 rule. People do move around but is it enough to qualify. Seems very vaguely drafted.
     
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    The 4000 rule is clarified that if people are expected to sit or even stand in their seated area for the majority of the time it doesn't apply.

    Yesterday definitely didn't legally need passes. With the positioning of the curtain divider thing in the away end I don't think 10,000 was physically possible. In general you're right, we would expect to have more than 10,000 or at least be close enough to it to cause issues. My original point was just one of clarification that capacity isn't relevant, it's attendance that's important.

    One thing I found quite interesting is that if multiple events are going on within one premises they're counted separately if the attendees aren't expected to mix. Made me think about separate stands at a football match
     
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    Some teething problems with it at the moment but the process will get better as staff get used to it. We are human. A bit of a mix up in communication with some stewards who seemed to believe they weren't needed and told people in the queue that, so then when they got to the turnstile they weren't ready and had to stand there faffing about logging into the app with frozen fingers. That caused the queues to stack up. I'm sure that will be highlighted before the next game.

    I will say it's not a great feeling when you have every other person coming through the turnstile giving you stick for trying to do your job. When queues develop near kick off and some people have had a drink it can become very unpleasant. I lost track of the number of people who swore at me yesterday because I asked to see something that I'm simply required to ask for. I didn't let anyone in without a pass or LFT text etc, but put yourself in some of these really young lads' shoes. Every time you turn someone away, they get seriously angry. It's intimidating to be sworn at by three píssed middle aged blokes who haven't bothered to check what they need. It's not right, but I'm not surprised some operators let a couple slip here and there.

    It'll get better as people get used to it and word filters through on certain things. For example, we can't accept vaccine cards, but hundreds still tried to use them yesterday.
     
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    You don’t get paid enough to take abuse of idiots who can’t be bothered to learn the, simple, rules.
     
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    you seen the trouble Chester are having. The ground is in England but the stands in Wales now that is a **** show.
     
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    Hopefully won't have to get used to it as plan B should run out at the end of the month.
     
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    Absolute nightmare. Categorically told they won’t receive any funding from the Welsh government, as they’re an English club, with a ground registered in the Cheshire district, on English land.

    But being threatened with fines for having crowds. You can’t make it up.
     
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    seems daft to me. I’d take the chance if I were them unless they’ve had legal advice telling them they would definitely lose a court case.
     
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    Really isn't acceptable for anyone to take it out on the staff. I think it's completely wrong that the government are making this a requirement and for my part I will not be attending again until it is no longer needed. I don't blame the club hence why I haven't looked to get a refund on my ticket.
     
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    Shouldn't be let in if they're swearing at staff imo.
     
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    Both can't be right though surely?
     
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    The Welsh government are in the wrong on this one and I’m not sure at all why they’re insisting on challenging the club. Same thing happened last year and Chester had crowds without any threats, court cases, or crisis meetings.
     
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    Meanwhile J D Cymru Premiership team TNS whose ground is in England (just) is not allowed any supporters in the ground.

    and on matters Welsh - looks very likely that Kieffer will be on his way to Bournemouth.
     
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