Var is an utter joke

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  1. Gravy Chips

    Gravy Chips Well-Known Member

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    These days, if you say you're McGeehan
     
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    After nearly every match at Oakwell the usual suspects are on here decrying the referee as incompetent, corrupt and the worst we've ever had (since the last game). After nearly every match on telly the MOTD/SKY/BT pundits dissect the life out of every decision made, pulling it to pieces with multiple camera angles not available to the poor person in the middle. If we could all agree to scrap these types of behaviour and just accept referees' decisions then we could safely scrap VAR for good.

    So, carry on it is then!
     
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    It's not though, not under the current rules anyway. It came off his thigh onto his arm. No penalty
     
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    It is farcical that you have var at some matches & not at others during the same competition , there should be no var at any FA cup games at any stage of the competition.
     
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    I wanted Villa to win but at the same time it was a clear foul preventing Cavani from marking Konsa. Why they messed about looking at offside & handball for a couple of minutes when there was a blatant foul that proceeded that makes no sense to me.
     
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    If a decision goes to VAR they should be made to announce what they are investigating either on the screen or over the PA system and just look at that. Last night they clearly looked at three things in order to rule that goal out and it didn’t sit right with me.
     
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    A clear foul? The player never moved,Cavani run straight into him.Said it since it came in get rid.It brings nothing to the game and takes all the emotion from it.Its no better and probably worse than when we just had one man making decisions.
     
  9. Stephen Dawson

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    I'll go a step further because of VAR there shouldn't be any fouls. Back in the day you could judge a referee after ten minutes. If he's pernickety you stop shirt pulling when in on goal or falling over because you aren't going to get anything. If you kept committing niggly fouls and losing the team position up the pitch you'd get a telling off from your manager and instructed to play the 5hit ref at his own game. I think the system is there to be played for the good of the game rather than just bad.
     
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    If Chelsea had anything about them they'd pay Chesterfield's half of that as well.
     
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    Why VAR personnel disallowed the goal upload_2022-1-11_9-53-20.jpeg
     
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    I'd replace all football officials with ones from rugby, league and union.
     
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    This is a point I see a lot of people making, but I don’t understand it.

    Is any team given an advantage by their tie having VAR? Surely it’s the equivalent of just having a better referee.

    VAR at a tie doesn’t give either side an advantage, so each team has the same chance of proceeding as without VAR. Likewise, not having VAR doesn’t give an advantage to either side for a game.

    Nobody is strictly advantaged or disadvantaged by whether their game is VAR. Whether a controversial decision goes their way is just due to the standard of officiating on the day.
     
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    It’s crazy that if it wasn’t for goal line technology not working, Aston Villa would’ve got relegated meaning that Jack Grealish wouldn’t have stayed for that extra season and his value wouldn’t have increased to £100 Million

    It also means that they wouldn’t have had the money to sign Ings, Buendia and Bailey at the beginning of the season and wouldn’t have gotten Gerrard and Coutinho mid season.
     
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    And then Kitching could get done for a knock on
     
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    The only thing I have against VAR is the referee using someone else's interpretation of the rules over his own. I'd love a referee to go to the screen and say "no I'm rite and I'll live by my decision".
     
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    I'd also replace all the players with those from Rugby league and union.
    You know, the type who play hard, want to win, but accept the decision of the referee as absolute whether they agree with it or not.
    And just get on with the game.
    Neither do they fall to the ground when an opposition player gets within 3 feet of them, screaming and screeching in agony with one eye on the ref to make sure he's awarded them the foul.
    Nor do they surround the ref shouting venom and waving imaginary red cards to try to get an opponent sent off for some innocuous infringement.

    It would be like watching football from the olden days
     
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    Or the ref doesn't even make it to the screen; just looks over, shrugs and throws his arms forward, and start running with his knees up to his chest, in that dramatic fashion that referees use: play on!
     
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    I don't like VAR, but I can see teams' frustrations when their game doesn't involve VAR and a decision (e.g. a blatant handball, a goal given when offside etc) goes against them and they lose because of it, but in the same competition another team goes through because they did have VAR and a decision went for them and they get through. It's the fact that it's the same competition that doesn't seem fair.
     
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    That happens in cricket fairly successfully though. They work as a team to get the best decisions. But you can't have continuing criticism/scrutiny of referees and not have VAR (or equivalent).
     
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