'Operation Red Meat'

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  1. TonyTyke

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    The BBC licence fee one scares me if the article was right. It will be the end of the BBC as we know it.
     
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    The Conservative Party have 2 big problems:

    1). They know the **** is coming down the line and nobody wants to try and stop it before it has hit
    2). The best possible candidate for PM in their ranks is Theresa May - the 2nd or 3rd worst PM of living memory.

    The main leadership candidates are either implicated in PartyGate (Gove/Sunak/Williamson), vapidly incompetent (Truss), terminally stupid (Dorries/Mordaunt) or madder than a box of frogs (Baker).

    I've thought for a while that the lies will eventually catch up with them, and I am now of the opinion that they are so toxic to the electorate that after the 2034 general election there will be 0 MPs from the Conservative and Unionist Party in Parliament - they'll have to rebrand to recover. (The "Tory party" for the 350th anniversary of its formation in 2028 might be a good bet).
     
  4. TonyTyke

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    If we must have a tory PM, can we have either Sayeeda Warsi or Anna Soubry? No, because neither are MPs.
     
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    Can't say I'd miss the BBC if it was gone. Fingers crossed.
     
  6. Red

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    Why?

    Genuinely interested in your reasoning.
     
  7. man

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    If they pull the trigger soon it will be Dorries, Truss or Baker as the rest aren't stupid enough to take it on knowing the **** will continue to hit the fan. Johnson may survive for a few more months just so more **** can be pinned on him before he is ousted.
     
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    why?
     
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    Personally I don't think there is any bias at the BBC, but anybody getting their news from the BBC alone because it is impartial is doing it wrong. We're not going to lose access to the truth like some people would have us believe.

    Beyond that, the BBC has gone increasingly outside of its remit. There is a graphic going around on twitter comparing the BBC output in 1995 to its current output, and it is approximately the same price. Who asked for all of the extra stuff? The BBC has added channels and services to justify its existence, and the suggestion that it return to its 1995 output is met by cries of "vandalism" by BBC luvvies.

    The BBC estimated that the £745m deficit in its budget when the government stopped paying for licences for over 75s was equivalent to the total spend on BBC two, three, and four, BBC news, cbeebies and CBBC. If you take that figure, double it, and divide by the twenty-six and a half million licence payers it works out at £56 a year. I'd be happy with that and those channels, but again, the BBC refuses to believe that it is oversized.

    People quote 43p a day, ignoring the very real £159 a year for what isn't value for money.
     
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    the problem with BBC news output is the obsession with balance. The climate emergency is a great example. You don’t need to platform someone with no scientific knowledge just a few prejudices in the name of ‘balance’. No one needs to know what Nigel Lawson thinks about global warming.

    This says it more succinctly than I can.

     
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    I don't necessarily disagree, but the problem is that someone else would see some of those channels as a waste and would want, say, Radio 2, the World Service, Iplayer, and local radio included instead. You can't please everyone. As soon as you squeeze out the niche stuff, the whole BBC package is weakened - even if I don't bother with the majority of it.
     
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    The next United Kingdom general election is scheduled to be held on Thursday 2 May 2024 so as a power wielding megalomaniac Prime Minister, he's safe until then. However as a power wielding megalomaniac Party Leader, he's only safe as the Conservative Party allows him to be so if the bumbling moron thinks bribing the General Public is what's needed to keep his "job" then he's even more ignorant than we all think. The only way for him to stay on office is to win over the Tory Grandees and the 1922 Committee by doing exactly what they tell him, which is totally out of character by the way. Based on that he's a "Dead Man Walking" in my book
     
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    do they do a vegetarian option, where they get non alcohol lager at number 10, BBC gets to keep Gary Lineker and the migrants get a ferry ticket
     
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    This seems apt for today - and to be fair most days since bozo the bunter lied his way to the top job from Susie Dent on twitter
    Susie Dent @susie_dent
    Word of the day is ‘sparple’ (14th century): to deflect unwanted attention from one thing by making a big deal of another.
     
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    You're right, you do sometimes catch Jeremy Vine bringing on a conspiracy theorist to 'debate' against something that appears to be factual

    I think the BBC news does a good job of bringing balance when it is required
     
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    What about operation Bratwurst?
     
  18. Stephen Dawson

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    I'd love it for sumat to come out about Gary Lineker like it did for Michael Vaughan. I've gone right off him since he got all political and started tweeting about everything. It's right up there with Dad dancing.
     
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