Can’t see this anywhere. Barnsley report Reading to EFL?

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  1. Old Goat

    Old Goat Well-Known Member

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    EFL website:

    "The EFL Board of Directors is responsible for providing the organisation's strategic direction.


    The Board consists of nine directors, six of whom are divisional representatives elected by member Clubs. The divisional representatives include three directors from Championship Clubs, two from League One Clubs and one from a League Two club. The remaining three directors are independent of Clubs."

    All of which sound reasonable enough, until you look at the names of the club representatives and see that one of them is Peter Ridsdale. At that point, any credibility goes out of the window.

    It's one thing complaining. It's another thing altogether to expect any meaningful changes while the EFL is being run for the benefit of serial overspenders.
     
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    It is still in our own hands though, if we did the business it does not matter what Derby or Reading do we would finish above them, its not likely to happen though but the reality is that technically we have still got it in our own hands .
     
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  3. Hooky feller

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    I agree. Thought the same. It was a weird term as if my mate had stolen next doors apples.
     
  4. NathanBFC94

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    No that's fine, but the report shared by the OP is more of a case of us pursuing something against Reading rather than us just asking for clarification what the situation is.
     
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    Conway has bellyached about the EFL a couple of times and given loose inference of threatening to sue. He threatened to sue Hearts, and Stendel. And the SFA. The only following would seem to be in his pants.

    And I agree on the not wanting us to be banished, but football will be football. You just have to look at the National league to see some of the clubs who were staple names when it was just a football league.

    Football just isn't what it used to be sadly, the only way it may ever get close to a fairer simpler state is absolute implosion, and I still don't see that happening anytime soon.
     
  6. andytyke

    andytyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    If we had done things right and been mid table would we even give a sh|t
     
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    I believe our owners have championed abiding by the rules since day one. As have a lot of clubs in the EFL. I reckon Old goat hit the nail on the head.
    Most fans as you say would most likely not give a s41t.
    I on the other hand do, and support any other club taking action.
     
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  8. NathanBFC94

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    We aren't but we are only doing it when it suits. Same with Wycombe. They only stepped up after they went down and tried to go after Owls and Derby. We went after Wigan when it was us or them and now this has come to light when Reading are the only ones we can catch. The timing seems petty and stinks of desperation.

    With regards to the question about playing, you need to call people out yes for not running in your example etc. but first and foremost you have to worry about your own performance and lead by example. And that is something we haven't done this season. We lost key assets in the summer (Dike, Mowatt and Val) and not replaced them properly and have been awful all season. If we had sorted our own stuff out we wouldn't need to worry about what the likes of Reading and Derby and others are doing financially as we would be fine regardless. Look at Luton, tiny budget like us but have been improving every season since promotion with us. They are not kicking off writing letters to EFL and calling out clubs all the time. Yes the manager mentions the small budget they have in interviews but that is it. They make sure they focus on their own affairs rather than what everyone else is doing.

    If we had done that properly in the summer and in January we would be well clear of the bottom 3 as we were last year and not where we are now hoping for another points deduction to maybe save us.
     
  9. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    So passive. I'd probably pick you last for five-a-side (this is where you tell me you're a world beater!).

    Wycombe didn't have anything to lodge a complaint against prior. Luton have been one of the few clubs to support our own stance. It's got nothing to do with our own performance, and paragraphs stating what we all agree on don't make a jot of difference. It's about cheating in football. You're suggesting we just let it happen.
     
  10. ley

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    You said
    Then immediately said...
     
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    but I doubt the club would be taking action had we been safe
     
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    We wouldn't have any losses to be making a claim on, if we were safe.
     
  13. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Of course they wouldn't. Because at that point here's no change to the outcome to us, based on the cheating.

    But you can guarantee we'd be vocal. And I would also guarantee we'd support any team taking action themselves.
     
  14. NathanBFC94

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    Not passive no and also far from a world beater so probably right to pick me last based on skill (unless your team is also terrible)

    The point is that it is not our job to do this so we shouldn't. If a big call is needed to be made at work that will have a big impact on many people would a floor worker be expected to make that call? No its the person at the top that has to make that choice. Same applies here, we are a small fish the EFL and its not for us to go around policing the rules telling the EFL who is right and who is wrong. They have to do it themselves.

    If they aren't doing it, then you need to get the backing of other people to make a good case so they can't ignore the issues. Not just firing a letter/email off when we are staring down the barrel of League one in a last ditch hope of survival. If they were so concerned about this matter with Reading, why was it not raised months ago when they were docked points initially etc.?
     
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    This is not complicated.
    If a club has been cheating and they've broken the rules they should be punished. Severely.
    Whether we get relegated or not is irrelevant.
    If a cheating club is gaining an advantage they should suffer points deduction and relegation. That would prevent them from cheating again.
     
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  16. Loko the Tyke

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    It is our job. We're one of the members voting on the rules. We need to take a stand with other members who feel and behave in the same way to try and drive the change that is needed.
     
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    Yeah and your point is?

    Wycombe did only lodge major complaints after they went down when it had deeply affected them. We only did the same during the Wigan fiasco when it was deeply impacting us. And it is the same story now. The only side we can catch realistically now is Reading and we have decided to choose now to pursue this.
     
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    It is not our job. We are a a member and vote on the rules but ultimately its those at the top of the EFL who choose to implement and enforce these.

    It is not Conway and COs jobs to report clubs to the EFL for rule breaks. It is there job to run Barnsley FC and make us as successful as possible which they are not doing a good job of currently.
     
  19. Loko the Tyke

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    Why does it have to be one or the other? Surely it's both? And surely they should always be acting in the best interests of Barnsley Football Club, whether that's recruitment in the Summer, operations on match days, or fighting the corner for those clubs who don't cheat.
     
  20. NathanBFC94

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    Shouldn't it be both then as you have just said to me in your other reply........

    IF they are so adamant on policing this themselves then we should be reporting teams left right and centre regardless of what we are doing but they don't. Only doing it due to the position we are in because of their own failings.

    I fully agree the EFL should be handing out harsh punishments for those breaking rules, but we shouldn't be the ones calling clubs out and we certainly shouldn't be doing it as a last ditch attempt to stay up.
     
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    You're happy for us to be relegated at the expense of clubs who show a complete disregard for the rules, and take an estimated drop of £8m in revenue, simply because you think it makes us look desperate?

    Quite frankly, I couldn't care less what twitter keyboard warriors think of us, especially when teams like Reading/Wigan/Derby etc have been taking the piss out of us for years with their reckless and illegal spending.
     

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