Benson is a disgrace

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  1. rin

    ringo Well-Known Member

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    Give the lad a chance. The few minutes i have seen of him . He has got more up and go in his little finger than that idle sod Benson. But yet Benson keeps getting picked and paid 7 grand a week for it apparently. Don't knock players till they have had a fair crack at it
     
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    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it's a lack of positional sense. I think Benson was deliberately trying to avoid having to do anything. He spent his entire appearance keeping away from the ball as best he could. Hands on hips puffing and panting like he'd just been on a bender and trying to keep out of the way
     
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    leythtyke Well-Known Member

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    I’m not as angry at Palmer after watching the replay. I think he runs out to get the ball, but only pulls out when Benson, who was closer to it, makes a move to the ball, only to put in a desperately weak challenge. Though, that said. Palmer should’ve taken out Benson as well and cleared it.

    But Benson’s showing was dire. I think Poya had a right to expect better from him.
     
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    Geddiswasguud Well-Known Member

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    Imho...I do think there's a player in there. He has been very disappointed though.
    Palmer....no......, just no, I cringe every time he plays. Benson maybe be better next year in a lower league. Its as clear as can be our midfield is better without Benson and palmer and probably we can now see how short they are of the standard required because of the new lads.
     
  5. SuperTyke

    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    The annoying thing is that the fans in general have not o my known how poor they are but have been quite vocally saying how poor they are since we'll before the January transfer window and the club did absolutely nothing to address it. They even actively extended Kane's loan deal to keep one of our own players away from the club therefore enforcing the use of the two useless lazy years. Their lack of effort, desire and all round ability hasn't just appeared, it's been plain to see all season and they are one of the biggest reasons we find ourselves in the relegation places
     
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    Hi everyone, I don't agree with SuperTykes view,or others in this thread but I understand totally why they think and have said what they have.
    My different perspective or view on how some of the players play or perform,looking at them is based on my previous career as a Psychiatric nurse. Some of the players at our club and others do look like they are suffering with Anxiety,Stress and Depression. Some of you will be unsympathetic to this view but S.A.D affects everyone, whether young or old. Elite sportspeople are no different,I'm often surprised when I read interviews where people disclose their experience. I read Bob Mortimer's autobiography recently and was moved at his description of his battle with depression, who would have thought?
    All are entitled to their opinion but just recently the attacks on people at the club are unacceptable. Imagine it was your child, your brother/sister, mum/dad.
    I'm not saying there are any players at the club suffering with S.A.D.,but it wouldn't be unusual, think of your own workplace, how many are off with S.A.D.?
    I know a lot of fans are angry, frustrated, disappointed, let's not destroy other people's children.
     
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    gaz97 Well-Known Member

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    To clarify for the few people who think i was being serious regarding Hondermarck being the worse player at the club it was said tongue in cheek because he’s constantly overlooked and barely gets a sniff on match days.
     
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    If Benson was "puffing and panting" as an 82nd minute substitute, I would say it's possible he hasn't got his lung function fully back after Covid.
     
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    In which case we should have brought Kane back.
     
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    I appreciate and respect what you’ve said mate I know it’s said in concern .
    It’s a difficult one as I only want to criticise on performance and not character assassination.
    Apparently our Head Coach has expressed the same concerns ad I’ve raised and he should be more informed of their character and whether they are putting in the required effort and attitude or not .
    I would not wish to unnecessarily criticise or abuse players but we have to understand the pressures on players and coaches etc ,
    Criticism is natural in sports and I don’t know what the answers are as we are also being informed that heading a ball is also causing cause for concern on sports .
    Sport is in never ending change and we have to get enjoyment in both competing and spectatoring right somehow .
     
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    I suspect a deal to sell Kane has already been made.
     
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    I think there is a good player in Benson, its just too early for him to be expected to dominate experienced championship teams n a midfield consisting of him/Palmer and Gomes.
    He had played 17 professional games of football when he joined us - 11 on loan at Grimsby in L2. Palmer is a year older and has played many more games, The fault lies in the club putting together that midfield for over 1/2 season and ruining his confidence. I think he has a career at this level, I hope we have the patience that it can be with us.
     
  13. Dan

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    He must certainly have quality, the question will be can he develop his game to allow that quality to be a factor. It's got to come from him though. I think a penny needs to drop. Effort is the minimum expectation.

    It took a good while for it to happen for Mowatt. Hourihane took time too.

    And fully agree that having more depth of experience in that midfield might have allowed him to flourish earlier, and we may even have avoided being in the position we now find ourselves.
     
  14. Stephen Dawson

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    I reckon he needs a goal. He was billed as being a playmaking midfielder with a decent set piece. The bit I've seen of him I thought he was half decent. Until Saturday.
     
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    It's a long time ago now, but while they played as a unit, Styles, Palmer and Benson were superb at QPR. It shows they can do it and have the ability and effort, even if it's only been shown in very small pockets. The question is, why has it been seen so sparingly?
     
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    Chopping and changing of the starting 11. Also I don't think it helps all the players and fans knowing that potentially our best midfielder is in the under 23's and they aren't always picked on merit.
     
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    I think with Palmer in particular, if Poya can get into his head to get his confidence up, we should be able to get some decent 60 or 30 minute stints from him. If he, or Halme can't do that in midfield, we're relegated, because Wolfe isn't going to play the full 90 of every game.

    I've said elsewhere, I think Palmer only pulled out of the challenge on Saturday because he saw Benson going for it from a closer position, in future he just needs to see himself as the senior midfielder and take control of the situation. I don't think he was doing too badly until the goal, but he seemed to crumble afterwards. Confidence must be fragile after the season we've had.

    Benson needs games at a lower level to get used to the physicality of first team football
     
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    I've not watched the goal back or scrutinised more than happened in game. My feeling at the time was someone needed to simply take control. Either one could have done it, neither did. And agree about the confidence levels. But I will also say, there is certainly effort there, despite it waning mid season. But we can't afford to keep giving the opposition opportunities from the most basic failures.

    It's incredible we've still a chance of staying up with 10 games to go, but we've got to go out and seize it. Other teams will pick up points and we cant just look at the Reading and Peterborough games in isolation. Barnsley being Barnsley, I highly expect us to lose both and have to do it the hard way!
     
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    My main concern is we don't make the most of our opportunities to create chances and get attempts off at goal. We've been fantastic as a team for a few weeks now but we don't create enough.
     
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    This is true. A screamer against Stoke, and a dody pen against Fulham. The only real chance we created was the one cleared off the line on Saturday.
     

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