P&O Ferries suspends sailings

You used to have to give 3 month notice to a change in contract in Local Authority ,you either signed it or left , if you didn’t sign the new contract but still turned up for work it was deemed you had agreed to the new terms

 

That's their company done for. Nobody will use them ever again.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them completely rebranding as a different company soon in a last ditch effort to survive

 

Isn't there DFDS to Belfast from Cairnryan?

 

I’m not so sure. People are angry now but a lot will forget when it comes time to book their holidays. British Gas had a very public fire and rehire recently but they still have plenty of customers.

 

I can't imagine all employees were UK based. Surely quite a few were French as well. Not seen any noise from them even though they spend more time on strike than working over there..

If the government want to get tough, they just need to get creative with some new legislation . Failing that tell P&O they can't use UK ports until they adopt a more reasonable route.

 

Brexit what else can it be, because of this stupid Brexit all human rights laws were kicked out remember Johnson and Farage we can make our own laws, we got our country back and they were not lying there for once, these people are not on the side of the worker. Give it a couple of weeks and it will be forgotten about just like the Sue Gray Party gate report.

 

The French Press reported the French workers are not affected but there again the French have still got the EU's human rights laws still in place.

 

Absolutely shocking example of industrial relations by P&O. Even our shower of a government are disgusted by it.

 

Faux disgust. This is straight out of the Tory policy manual.

 

Except they moved the registration to Bermuda in 2011 to take advantage of relaxed employment laws so it’s not something new.
The Cruise side is no better, they literally have 3 levels of crew, Officers, Staff(Europeans) & Crew (Phillapinos).

 

their employees are protected under French law.

 

Get ready for this to be a regular occurrence once the Tory ******** get rid of every bit of employment regulation then the Brexit bunch may finally wake up to why the right wing of the Tory party and the right wing press pushed and pushed for Brexit through lies and deceit until they finally convinced enough people to vote for it. This is what Brexit was all about turning the UK into a sweat shop.

 

No.1 the day I was born, that song.

 

No I was just pointing out that throwing all the blame at either Brexit or the Tories is not accurate either. While neither have helped workers rights these issues did exist before.

 

Sounds about right I seem to remember it being 90 days. Think the Tories cut it to 45. Obviously longer notice is better but 90 days was hardly much protection.

 

Having worked for P+O, I know at first hand how devious and ruthless they can and try to be...they couldn't lay straight in bed if they tried.this isn't anything new....having started with northsea ferries then taken over by P+O Gibraltar then transferred to P+O Bermuda ( both just postal addresses) to get round tax and employment under maritime law...
As early as 2003 P+O laid most of the British crew off and replaced them with more portuguese mariners .. leaving us brits in the management roles....the excuse obviously like today's news was wage cost....then the Portuguese worked 6 weeks on 2weeks off got paid in American dollars then exchange rate to Euros value ...dollar was weak against the euro most of the time whereby us brits did 2weeks on 2weeks off got paid in pounds and were able to then claim our tax back.. because every night we crossed into international waters between Hull and Holland or Bruges return depending if you were on the HMMV Norland or the Norsea vessels...
The Norland was retired and sold the Norsea renamed pride of York and continued to work the bruges
The pride of Rotterdam followed by her sister ship the Pride of Hull came into service in 2000 ...I had the pleasure of crewing the Hull on her maiden journey out of Venice , where they the sisters were built and launched....
After numerous years later more brits were either made redundant and replaced by further portuguese crew ....Agency staff have always been used on P+O ships mainly from the Liverpool agency ...they were on a different lower pay grade to us and the portuguese only got payed per round trip.
The portuguese crew were removed in exactly the same way a few years ago and replace by crew from the Philippines on 6 monthly contracts similar to cruise ship operations obviously on less money.....

Now we see the officers and deck crew along with the British Pursers and what very little brits were left now sacked and being replaced....now not knowing the nationality of the agency staff waiting shore side I'd hazard a guess they will have been pulled in from most areas and will be temporarily employed 1 trip out to Holland returning back as passengers whilst the Philippines and Indian crew will be brought aboard Dutch side
Doesn't sit well and both previous Labour and Conservative Government have turned a blind eye to the demise of the British seafarers employment...P+O will get away with it as they have done before it's not new news they are not a British ship although they fly the royal ensign they are Bermuda registered and under maritime law can pull crew In from anywhere.... one of the reasons the Hull gets hit is the Dutch unions have a stronger hold on employment laws re crewing ships .
Hope this helps

 

There is. That will be my choice from now on. Bit further to drive over there, but I won’t be using P&O again.

 

Piss & Off.