The rumours saying we’d be happy with the season ticket price , well a price freeze won’t make many people happy . Surely they know that they are going to lose thousands of season ticket holders , so why not go for a 200 season ticket and try to keep as many as they can
Not sure I can agree with you on that Loko. Even if it was expressed clumsily it is still exactly what the club have done. We have consciously moved from attacking energetic, pressing football to a more possession based defensive brand of football. I'm not sure 'lost in translation' can be used as a buffer when it's exactly what actions demonstrate. We HAVE changed styles and personally I believe the truth was in that interview. We have changed styles to improve player stats for resale value at the expense of entertainment to our customers.
But your money is going to them, as owners. And you're signifying your implied acceptance of how they run things. Each to his own, and respect your opinion, but I can't have it, I'm afraid.
But any CEO, newly appointed or otherwise, should have spotted from a mile away that whatever was intended from that statement would be received badly by the fanbase. It was naieve in the extreme and immediately put him on the back foot. Language barrier or not, there are some things that a CEO should know not to say in public, and this was one of them. In fairness, he's done some good things since then and I think he could ultimately be a decent CEO for us, given time. He's nowhere near the top of the fundamental issues I have with the club at the moment. However, given the triple whammy of declaring last season a failure, closing the West Stand and appointing Asbaghi as Head Coach, he's given himself a mountain to climb in terms of how he's perceived by the wider fanbase.
If they halved the price it will not make me change my mind. I know a lot of folk are just happy to go and watch them. I want to see Barnsley achieve summation and I now realise it ain’t ever going to happen because they build then it’s all broken up that’s me done.
That's pretty much identical to my line in the sand for renewal, and I'm not expecting it to happen, sadly.
But you’ve completely ignored what I said, given I don’t think it was anywhere near as bad a comment as you, in that at what point do you accept it as a mistake and the apology that came with it? I completely understood what he meant and thought it was valid. What I massively disagree with and have an issue with, is the appointment of Schopp and the dramatic shift from one style to another. Followed by Poya. Honest mistake at the start of the gig, when speaking to the media for the first or second time, or something you hold against the club for years to come?
I wasn’t suggesting anything was lost in translation about the change in playing style. That’s clear to see. But people seem to focus on the comment about no bids for players when he’s tried to retract that and explain he didn’t mean it as it came across. I’m not sure what else he can do at that point. Which is why I’m asking on here for those who have really taken umbrage with that particular moment. Like I said, I’m more annoyed about others than that one so it’s intriguing to hear the views.
What do you think? You can separate moments in time you know. There were clear actions and multiple words for the West Stand. This was one interview and one comment.
Given that the 'model' is all about flogging players for profit, I guess it's no surprise that people are interpreting his comments in the way they are.
It seems to me that there are two possibilities here 1. He didn't mean what he said and it was a language problem. It's purely a coincidence that he has now hired two managers this season who both play a similar style of football which matches what Khaled said and is an apparent attempt to go away from the more direct successful football played by Val. 2. He's lying to cover his tracks after being caught out. Considering he has form I'd say it's 2.
I wont be renewing. Ive said my reasons many times and the list gets longer. I genuinely think the club have done well to maintain the prices for so long and that surely must be a good thing. It isn’t about the cost for me. It’s about the value plus the lack of direction and progression from the owners. After all ill be investing the same as the owners. Good luck to those that will renew, I’m sure the reasons are equally valid as my own.
Is that the model? Depends on your own view of the model I guess. Especially considering we’ve actively chosen not to flog players for profit in more recent times.
A fundamental, easily avoidable error in his first public interaction in the role. At the time it made me question his suitability for the role, which he's partially redeemed since then. Not sure how I've avoided what you said, as you imply, and it's not something I'm still concerned about, given all that has followed it. However, it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that it's still an issue for others. Additionally, it was a statement which very much reflects the attitudes of our owners, as who else would have planted that seed in his head to begin with? Unlike him, they've done nothing to distance themselves from it, and it has been consistent with how they've chosen to run the club this season. So, while I'm less concerned than others with the way Khaled phrased it, I can certainly hold the general view expressed against the owners until I see any evidence that it wasn't the case. I'm not aware of any as yet.
I really don't know how you know that Loko. I accept you are way closer to the club than most of us, but the odd statement made by the club, that the rest of us base our comments on, has certainly not led me to the conclusion that they were turning bids down (both those that would yield a profit and any other type). In fact, the CEO's statement that people took umbrage with, suggested that the key element of the model was being confounded by the playing style.
My original point was what more can he do once retracted, apologised, and with a minor explanation of what he meant. I don’t fall out with the statement at all - it’s perfectly valid. We might not like it, but it’s a sound opinion rather than one that’s absolutely batshit crazy. Our issue was what we followed it up with - Schopp, Oulare, Iseka - which all leads back to Paul Conway. That’s where the problem lies, rather than the CEO picking up the mess left behind after the Summer.