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  1. ley

    leythtyke Well-Known Member

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    They are allowed to try and sell season tickets though. It gets tiresome reading every initiative the club have in place to do that being described as blackmail
     
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    You’re entitled to your opinion but I just see it as a potential win win.
    It shows the disconnect between some fans and the club right now which I accept is the fault of the owners. And feels like for some under the current ownership the club can’t win regardless of what they do.
     
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    They can win on this issue though. It would have been simple. Just announce a 20k donation to local clubs. End of. No one would argue with that. I'd have applauded it. Instead they make this clumsy, cack handed effort to tie it to season ticket sales. It just looks bad and either calculating at worst or badly thought out at best. At a time where they're struggling for credibility it's not a good look.
     
  4. ley

    leythtyke Well-Known Member

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    Were you complaining that the club weren’t donating before this announcement?
     
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    churtonred Well-Known Member

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    No. I'm complaining that they are tying a piddling amount of money (let's be honest it won't amount to more than 6k) to fans buying season tickets.
    Just make a gesture of a no strings attached donation and there's no problem. The club looks good in everyone's eyes.
     
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  6. ley

    leythtyke Well-Known Member

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    So, no complaints when there was no donation, but complaints when there is a donation.

    Personally, I don’t see an issue with the club (not the owners) paying an amount that is dependant what is brought in. The relationship between the club and community is a two way thing, and if we only sell 5k season tickets, then £20k becomes a significant sum given the current financial situation.

    I just think that this and the voluntary work they are promising is a positive thing from the football club. As for the owners of that football club. I don’t want them paying £20k to grass roots clubs as much as i want them to repay the £750k back to the football club.
     
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    I personally think it is a good gesture , however I do not think it will encourage anyone to buy a season ticket and it seems to have been met with a lot of cynicism so if the fans do not like it then withdraw the gesture , keep the cash in the coffers & deny a few bob to local grassroots , at least they for once will have done what the supporters appear to want .
     
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    I don’t see how this is clumsy or cack handed? It seems pretty clear to me that depending on the amount of season tickets we sell we will donate some money to grass roots clubs. It’s something they are not obliged to do, they could keep all the season ticket money. It doesn’t matter whether you or I determine it enough, it is something and that something will benefit local clubs. I just can’t see how it is being framed as something bad or not good enough by people?
     
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    I think it’s a good gesture. I suppose they could have said - we will then match the donation so

    1000= 1k then a matched 1k.
     
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    Okay, let's come at this from a different angle because my point is that this is just an indication of inept management.
    Do we think thst a single fan is going to be swayed into buying a season ticket because about 20p of their purchase will be passes on to Athersley Rec or Penistone Church? No. Absolutely not.
    So if the club actually want to donate a few thousand to local clubs they had the choice of needlessly linking it to season ticket sales and looking cynical to some or just making a no strings donation and looking good to everybody.
    They chose the former which makes me continue to think that the person who came up with this idea (presumably the CEO) is clueless.
    And I completely fail to see the relevance of whether or not I was calling for a donation to local clubs beforehand. I've supported non league teams in the past by actually going to watch them now and again.
     
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    And as a p.s to the above if anyone thinks I just criticse the club for everything they do go look for my comments on the £135 refund thread. There are none. It's a reasonable incentive scheme and fair enough and far more likely to increase season ticket sales.
     
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    They aren't the first company to do it and I won't be the last but I've never liked it when companies offer to donate to charity but only in direct relation to customers spending money. Another that I don't like is when supermarkets have food Bank collection points at the checkout essentially saying buy our products, we will make profit but when you donate what you just bought we will look good.

    Went off on a bit of a tangent there but yeah I'm just not keen on companies using charitable donations that are directly linked to customers spending more money with said company in the first place but also as I said Barnsley are not the only ones to do this, not be a long way
     
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    Tbf, for time poor cash rich folk those bags at checkouts make it easy to give to a foodbank and probably up donations considerably .
     
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    I mean more of the ones where there's just a big container at the exit where the idea is you buy food from the store and then donate it at the exit. In my opinion it's nothing to do with helping the foodbanks it's all about upping Tesco profits by asking you to buy their goods at significant profit and then handing it straight back to the store for them to donate. Why should they make profit on it?
     
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    I get what you are saying and there are some instances of that that i don’t particularly care for. But in this instance, I don’t really have an issue with money coming into Barnsley football club being moved onto football in Barnsley, and that amount being dependant on how much comes in.

    My view on this is that I think so little of the owners that I doubt that the idea of donating any money to grassroots football even crossed their mind. So my assumption is that employees at the club have come up with the idea, managed to squeeze some of their budget, but structured it in a way that reduces risk. I think they should be commended for it, not criticised.

    Of course, they might’ve been able to donate a bit more with an extra 750k in the bank…
     
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    I agree. Excellent decision.
     
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    Exactly this.
     
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    My post was more in general about not liking initiatives where companies profit from appearing charitable. I've got no particular issue with Barnsley doing it as like I said they're hardly alone, it's just a general dislike of mine
     
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    I’m not sure money being donated should result in derisory comments.
     
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    It's not the money being donated that's getting derisory comments.
    If they were to simply donate 10 grand I'd happily applaud.
     

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