If we were to get a new manager

yes I am being pedantic. You seem to take these points rather than on what they actually are or any balanced view and push them towards a position that suggests its all good and the clubs have this right. The fact is the manager is not the budget owner. Do you agree on that point. We have seen the frustration of several managers due to them not being allowed to bring players in by choice and also having to work with players they haven't chosen. Even before these owners and the problem seems to be worse under this ownership.

You might not mean or be saying this, but my perception (I can't speak for others) is that's how it comes across.
Now to keep the topic balanced, what about the other 3 points?

This club is attractive, it will be a role many people would be interested in and I think we will have applicants that would be exciting (for fans but perhaps not the owners). However, we seem to have a model of what we want that isn't quit working. Val didn't actually fit that profile as well as I thought and had success. The reality whether you want to paint it up different or not is that the role is subservient to the owners, has a say in, but not the decision power in a lot of things. There will be money to spend but it will have to be generated from within the club and have the permissions from others above the manager to spend it.

 

I still don't agree that they need to be British. However, they need to have had more significant experience than our current and previous coach.

Stendel had, albeit limited, experience coaching at a good level. As did Ismael. Struber's managerial career may have had a few more question marks over it, but he had coached a team in the Europa league. As daft as it sounds, we're never going to drop on a British coach with that kind of experience, unless we go down the Mark Hughes at Bradford route.

 

I know what you're saying Archey, but the record is now 3 good 'uns and 3 bad 'uns. If the next one is poor, then it's below 50%. We currently are (but not for much longer) playing in the 5th highest league in the world. Where do you get that experience from?

 

Wow.. what a stab in the dark that would be..

 

Get your application in Marc, you can do worse than the two we have had this year , you get my vote !

 

New manager will be Neil Redfearn. A PR stunt to appease the fans.

 

I'd go for Deon Burton or Mike Sheron.

 

A manager should be about quality not nationality.I was checking the other day and every team from the Premiership down to league 2 in the relegation spots are managed by British coaches apart from Barnsley.

 

For balance, every Manager in an Automatic promotion place in the EFL, except Silva at Fulham was born in England.

I agree though it’s about the quality not the Nationality.

 

If love of the club was the only requirement anybody on this board could do it.

 

They’ll go cheap so probably Devaney

 

Apart from Stendals promotion winning team every other promotion in the previous 40 years has been with a coach/manager promoted from within the club, people say its a cheap option I say its the smart option, Norman Hunter, Danny Wilson , Andy Ritchie & Paul Heckingbottom are testimony to that .

 

I really do not see the point in this. Why 'should' it be a British headcoach/manager? It baffles me. I'd rather have a Val/Stendel over a Keith Hill. Plenty of clubs have foreign managers who are doing well. Experienced manager, given our position pre-Poya/near future, fair enough. But British? Why?? We shouldn't just rule people out either given they are British, as we seem to do as a club. Just get the best person who we think are best for the job.

 

I'd understand your point more if we hadn't just sat through 40 games of utter dross this season from 2 foreign coaches. That's 6 on the trot with these owners, with a 50% "success" rate. I'm saying let's try a British coach

 

50% wouldn’t be too bad if we could keep hold of the successes for a couple of seasons.

 

2 inexperienced coachs. Nationality has nothing to do with success.

 

Some very good British coaches from the lower leagues Russ Martin and Ryan Lowe.

 

I personally don't care one bit if the manager is from England or Ethiopia, man or woman, young or old. All I care about is whether they're any good or not.

I just wish when appointing a manager the primary concern is are they any good NOW? You can't treat your manager like you do the players and keep appointing I experienced project managers who will start off **** and hopefully improve over time before being sold on for a profit. If the manager is poor fir the first 6 months or a year then apart from seeing us relegated it also stops any of the players from developing at all and yet after making that mistake with schopp we went straight for the same tactic with asbahgi. An inexperienced project manager who may grow into the role. Well done now Barnsley are getting relegated to league 1 and the squad has gone backwards under him.

It's like appointing a toddler to teach kids in schools.

 

I know. Anyways, the discussion we're having is all academic anyway as whoever get's the job won't be here more than 12 months

 

Yep. I'm all for a british lad, as long as he's the best fit for us. As Supertyke says, couldn't care less if they're english or ethiopian. Just don't want us getting a brittish fella, purely because he's brittish. I hope we're not ruling out people either just because they are british as people say about this lot in charge.