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  1. fir

    fired Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Thankfully never been divorced but this absolutely feels like a situation where you know that something is very bad, really wrong for your happiness, and you should let it go.

    Just had Decree Nisi from BFC
     
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    Ha-ha. I'm going for a trial separation, see if a bit of time apart heals - but the 'old girl' has to got to change if there's going to be a medium term rapprochement.
     
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    Trial separations only work if the reasons for separation are resolved. Just promising to do better doesn't cut it, actions speak louder than words.
     
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    in that case Spectemur Agendo rings true once again
     
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    Tomi Well-Known Member

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    I don't go to any games so I can't criticise anyone, and I'm certainly not even trying to do so, but...

    Before we all start boycotting Barnsley and/or the current regiment, is it mostly because of the truly awful season that is thankfully nearly over, or do you think that the owners have had bad intentions from day one? I mean, this season has been worse than anyone could have imagined, but I'm fairly sure that pretty much everyone was quite pleased this time last year. Since then everything seems to have gone horribly wrong of course, but that's what football is like sometimes - especially for us Barnsley fans - it's like a neverending rollercoaster ride with ups and downs. I'm no Nostradamus obviously and there's no guarantee that things will get better any time soon, but it's also possible that the next "up" is just around the corner, and it may only take one successful manager appointment for that to happen.

    Again, I must emphasise that I'm not criticising anyone. This season has been so disappointing and depressing that I've often left the live streams running on the background while I do other things, simply because I've felt so annoyed and frustrated. Therefore I tip my hat for those who attend our games, especially those dedicated folks who travel to away matches to support us - I couldn't do it even if I had a chance! Still, I'm looking forward to the next season and truly hope that we can turn things around, and at least fight for promotion. I know that our owners are only here to do business, and that is worrying, but isn't that the case in most other clubs as well these days?
     
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    Exile Well-Known Member

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    I think this will be the 5th relegation during my time watching the Reds and obviously each has brought its own disappointments but this one is unique in the extent to which it seems to have been manufactured 'in-house', the extent to which we have been hamstrung by our own ownership and the general atmosphere of alienation they have fostered, driving a wedge between them and the supporters.

    In short I kind of liken it to the old song 'It Ain't What You Do (It's the Way That You Do It). I can live with the relegation but I can't live with the way the regime have damaged the club and hitherto lifetime relationships in bringing it about.
     
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    Tomi Well-Known Member

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    The owners really seem clueless at times, but from a business perspective, why would they ever damage the club on purpose? Surely that would only mean more losses to them. But yes, I'm quite confused as well!
     
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    For me, I can live with the relegation.
    I can't live with our owners treating the club the way it does - as part of a portfolio. They just son't seem to care.
    The amount of things that have gone wrong this season are beyond a joke. To go from 5th to relegation is just negligence. It really is. We just had to be better than one team that didn't have a deduction. We contrived to be worse than those who gave us a head start.
    Throw into that the fact that we have all done seasons where we learned not to have to watch games in person, and this club should be bending over backwards to retain every single supporter. On my view it's doing very little.
     
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    I'm going for a trial separation. Play the field with a couple of non-league slags in the hope my one true love notices and makes an effort to spice things up, makes an effort with her appearance and begs me to come back into the fold.
     
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    I snuck out on Tuesday night and I was unfaithful to BFC with the San Francisco Giants.
    We won 13-2, so it was good to see a win fir a change. I also witnessed history being made, with the first female on-field coach in the MLB.
     
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    The problem unfortunately is they don't understand the business they're in, its passions, its traditions, its hinterland and it's intangibles (particularly when it comes to managers, players and supporters) so when things have gone awry they haven't learnt, just pressed on with more of the same rigid, distant, dogmatic approach.
     
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    MrsHallsToffeerolls Well-Known Member

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    When they first acquired the club those that weren`t happy or wary with the new owners, like myself, were told to give them a chance. Going on four and half years almost has been a fair time to give em a chance in my opinion.

    Now its time for me to not renew again whilst these owners are in charge, and if that is for any length of time I maybe lost for good.
     
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    I believe the key issue these people have failed to grasp is continuity. From practically day one with Hecky leaving (and why he chose to jump ship) to the bulk of the back room staff last summer, we’ve had a totally ridiculous turn over of personnel.
    Yes players and managers come and go on a regular basis at most clubs, it’s part and parcel of football, but what has happened at Oakwell in the last few years is staggering by any standards, culminating in the fiasco of last summer. CEO, Manager , coaches, head Physio and others. How much of this has contributed to the number of players lost to injury this season I wonder?
    At first glance turn over in players didn’t seem too bad. We inevitably lost Mowatt but Solly was a big loss both on and off the pitch. Losing Sibbick and letting Kane out on loan were big mistakes in my view, but my main thrust is that until we grasp the need for stability and continuity our decline will continue.
     
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    The boards plan will not in fact cannot give stability / continuity, by it's very nature it leads only to churn as everybody on the playing and coaching staff as a price.
     
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    It is simple really. They have bought into the entertainment industry but have no idea what that is or how to make it work. If you buy a restaurant but know nothing about food or more importantly what diners want and expect, then you won't succeed and your business will fail. Trying to attract diners when you use cheap ingredients and dont know how to combine them to make attractive delicious food simply because you are only interested in profit...well you can see how that will end up.
    Simply put, if you aim to be successful in any customer driven business you need to focus on those elements that make your customer happy. That will lead to more happy customers , growth of the business and ultimate higher profits. Focussing on maximising profits by cost cutting actually does not generate growth and is more likely to shrink the business.

    Frankly, these so called business men, Conway included, are absolutely clueless and completely out of their depth when it comes to running a professional football club.
     
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    Can't argue with that. What was last season all about though? The restaurant owner found his grandma's secret recipe and everyone loved it, but then lost it and a total disaster followed?

    These folks may not have experience in running a football club, but surely/hopefully(!) they're not stupid. As businessmen they want to make profit in one way or another, and a relegation must mean big losses to them, so let's hope that they've learned something from this...
     
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    The difference is @Tomi other owners at least attempt to
    more like the chef went rogue!
     
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    The restaurant owner found a really good chef that could make some seriously good food with the basic ingredients he had....... The customers loved it and the restaurant was successful....... The owner however wanted the food to be abit more flamboyant and subsequently got two really poor chefs in and business nosedived....... Flatbreads were decent tho.
     
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    I take my hat off to anyone who's relationship with the fruity Lee J lasted the course.
     
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    Spot on. ive watched us in league one plenty of times before i have no problem doing so again. My problem lies with the owners how they have treated the fans, lied, took money from the club and to top it off conway avoids a meeting with the supporters trust.
     
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