O/T Stocksbridge Bypass...

Used to be a story about a ghost at Highgate pit called Rag Arm who died after being trapped in machinery.

 

How was the figure of your father in law, did he seem like a real person or was it more vivid, what did he do and how long did it last for? I'm not poking fun just genuinely interested, thanks JackRussell.

 

A bit of logic.
The dead outnumber the living by I think something like 18 to 1. That's approximately 142 BILLION dead folk on earth. If ghosts were really hanging around and, as is evidenced by Jack Russell seeing his dead father in law, were visible, then shouldn't we be bumping into ghosts left right and centre? We should all be seeing them every time we walk outside. The streets should be rammed.

If we accept that dead beings become ghosts when they die then shouldn't there be pterodactyl ghosts flying around the world and basically literally trillions of animal ghosts running around?

Next is if ghosts exist, and again we know they can make themselves visible, then why does old Doris who sadly passed away only bother to speak to her grieving daughter via a medium at the local working men's club?

 

I'm convinced I've seen a ghost. It was in (about) 1997 on the way from the Engineers in Higham to the M1 junction when I saw a figfure slowly walking across the road.
Not only did I see but my 18 year old daughter in the front passenger seat saw it as well. We compared notes when we got home and they seem to suggest we saw the same thing.
I don't believe for a minute it was the "spirit" (whatever that is) of a dead person but I'm at a loss to explain it to this day!!

 

Anyone who is convinced they have seen a ghost just keep this in mind, you didn't.

 

Maybe it's ghosts we're bumping into in the street not people!

 

I've heard about people talking to full blown apparitions and not knowing it. They're only a ghost if you know they're dead.

 

I have no reason to believe that ghosts exist, but as a lover of supernatural fiction, I'd chuck in the following.

1. You're grossly overestimating the number of ghosts, since in popular fiction it tends to be only those people who have died in traumatic circumstances, or who have unfinished business, who are unable/unwilling to fully shuffle off the mortal coil.

2. Perhaps most of us wouldn't be bumping into ghosts all the time anyway, because only those people who are somehow attuned to the right psychic wavelength are receptive enough to sense a ghost's presence. And perhaps there are degrees of receptiveness, so that while one person might see a ghost, another only senses a change in atmosphere, a drop in temperature, or suchlike?

I do enjoy a good ghost story, though, so whether they exist or not, I'm glad somebody came up with the idea of them.

 

I asked my Grandad to come back and let me know if there was anything after death, He hasn't visited and he died suddenly in 1997.

 

Surely many of us when we pass would take our ghostly selves over to Oakwell to watch the mighty reds… maybe that’s why there always appears to be less there than the official count.?!? Cue the twilight zone theme…..

 

That might be why Oakwell gets called a morgue.

 

Very interesting thread this.
Does this all mean that there is life after death?
Or "something" after death.

 

That's what I'd like to cling to.

 

Some interesting stuff here. Never seen anything myself but know quite a few people who have had experiences. They're quite serious people too who aren't typically prone to lying for the sake.

I guess we don't know. And perhaps we aren't supposed to know. I do think that science is becoming as dogmatic as maybe religion was a few hundred years ago. "We know everything, we've proven there is no God, the mind is a product of the brain, the Big Bang" etc. I think if people actually took a moment to read what modern day science is telling us and what it's implications are for us as humans, they'd find it depressing. I know I do, so I do sort of cling to there being "something else".

 

But would you really want to spend eternity in the place you've traumaticaly died in, knocking plates off the table and messing with the light switches!?

 

We mustn't confuse talking about an unexplained experience and lying though. Plenty of people are convinced they've seen ghosts, been abducted by aliens, been possessed, had past lives etc. and they aren't "lying". Lying is trying to to deceive. They may or may not be correct, but they are convinced these experiences happened.

 

No serious Scientist says any of those things. No proof exists that there is no God and it never will.

 

I'm not sure I'd want to spend eternity wandering up and down Stocksbridge bypass, SD.

 

There was once a spiritualist called Hugh who believed in fairies. He thought they were essential for the plant kingdom to thrive. Strange.

Even stranger, Hugh was Air Marshall Sir Hugh Dowding who was in charge of Fighter Command during the Battle of Britain. Hardly a fit and proper man to be conducting Britain’s defence you’d have thought.

He was no scientist but because he believed in things you couldn’t see he was a great enthusiast of ‘radio detection’. Few others thought that radio waves could bounce off objects and be tracked on a screen. By backing scientists, working on what would become known as' radar' he developed a defence system that was crucial in saving Britain in 1940.

So, there you go. A man who believed in fairies saved Britain.

If some on here were in the Air Ministry at the time, old Hugh would have been labelled a madman and relieved of his command.