O/T Stocksbridge Bypass...

Well, Einstein kind of said it. That the more he studied the science, the more he believed in God.

 

Hmm not sure about that. I think Einstein was a committed athiest. Might be wrong. Some early quantum physicists, however, became quite spiritual after to trying to get their heads around reality at the level of particles. Schrodinger got that freaked out by it all he abandoned his work and took up biology instead.

 

In the same way, anyone unwilling to consider different ideas or opinions is the definition of a ‘closed mind.’

 

Einstein did start with a religious upbringing, and while he moved away from the religious side of God, I don't think he ever declared himself atheist.

Francis Collins went completely the other way. Agnostic during his upbringing, medical school etc, then had a religious experience whilst hiking. Very interesting interview to see how scientists reconcile their belief in God with science.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...ost-powerful-scientists-believes-in-miracles/

Personally I am a lazy agnostic.

 

Science has proved that mathematically you can be two places at once. Even if physically you can not. No wonder some of them were f cuked in the mind. Quantum mechanics has a lot to answer for.

 

I had it a lot as a child. Agree it’s terrifying, totally disagree about it being supernatural.

 

My flat mate at uni always said he would haunt me if he died early just to mess with me as he knows I don’t believe even slightly. He then died of a brain tumour three years later. He’s never shown up (obviously) and I know for a fact he would have if it were real to say I told you so. I don’t know why he always used to say it but he was adamant he would. Even if he’d never meant it, there’s no way he could not after how many times he used to say it.

 

I wouldn’t, imagine having to just carry on, forever. What age do you stay as? Are there poor 100+ year olds being ancient forever, watching little kids or people in their prime looking lovely? Where do you live and who with? How overcrowded is it? Can I still go watch Barnsley and read new books by my favourite authors? If you’ve remarried do you all live together in a polygamous fashion or does someone wait all that time for their love to rejoin them and then gets cut out? If you and your new partner die 50 years after them you’d still care for them but you wouldn’t feel the same about 20 year old them when you’re 70 and have had a full life with your new partner (who wouldn’t be best pleased to find a young, strapping ex suddenly on the scene). It all sounds very complicated.

 

Best post I've read for a while. It would be crowded and confusing no doubt. If it does exist there's probably some kind of order to things. Multiple versions of ones self for people to enjoy and vice versa.

 

Try this one to mash science with religion.

 

Sounds horrible doesn't it! Eternity is a long time.

 

Death does sound complicated JD. But then so does life.

 

The only bit of evidence we have of what it's like to be dead is before we were alive. So think of a year that was before you were born. That's probably what it's like.

 

Yeah, but at least I know that’s only for a finite amount of time. As if I’d want to be around for literally forever. I get bored in the 6 week hols

 

You could ask for some leave to go haunting the kids.

 

How we come to be here and what's in the universe around us are very complicated aswell.

 

So? That doesn’t mean I’d want to ‘live’, or whatever you want to call it, forever. It sounds horrendous.

 

I think jam that most people would love to know if we meet our loved ones again after death, it would give us strength and hope when the good lord calls for us, maybe after life it'll be what we make of it, there's no harm in that.

 

I think, Jeff, that’s what you want. I’d hate to think that if Will died tomorrow and I live another 50 years he’d just be waiting lonely for me all that time, not able to see or speak to me and just waiting for me to die to meet again after all that time, he’d hate it. I find the idea quite upsetting actually. Similarly, if I’d died I’d hope he’d move on and forget me. I can’t think of anything more awkward than expecting to swan back into his life 50 years later.

 

Your really moody on this, if it were real I doubt people are waiting around like at a bus stop, what's wrong with meeting all your loved ones again. I've lost a lot of people in life and would love too see them all again, I like to think they're all up there together keeping each other company, gives me a little comfort.