Or as part of a new agreement, it may (I say may cos I'm not sure on legalities) say that any up front investment by the one's leasing it, may be taken into account if they then purchase the ground.....
It would be great to see them put in a little money to protect thei investment. That said the actual investment was what, £10 million spread across the investment group, the Crynes, Parekh and Lee? It's possibly as likely some of those will be more inclined to pull out altogether than throw more money at it. Even doing nothing is going to damage the holding of the purely for profit investors. Why purely for profit investors ever put money into us in the first place is a mystery to me anyway but hey ho. At this point in time, as others have pointed out, the financial outlook is very bleak. I have to say that, with almost total hope and no certainty, Nareev Parekh may be our best bet and inclined to invest a little.
The town benefits from a successful football club. Businesses and people. Isn’t that who the council represent? It’s not cloud cuckoo land Helen, sorry.
The town may benefit, but that won't directly improve the Council's finances, which as we all know are finite and already under huge pressure. It's been receiving the rental income for years and that amount already forms part of its overall budget. In order to increase the Council's stadium maintenance/improvement budget, you would have to reduce costs elsewhere. I hope you're right and there is a cunning plan, but I won't be holding my breath.
Depends how you look at it. There’s revenues directly associated with a thriving town centre, and the football club being part of the community is one lever to pull as part of that. It would have a halo effect elsewhere if we had crowds of 10,000 plus vs. 6,000 plus.
I’d have thought any investment would come from Oakwell Community Assets Limited jointly owned by the Crynes and the council and presumably able to raise investment independently of the council so I doubt it would have any bearing on the issues you mention. Might be right about the rent though
But to generate investment you need to offer a return. I struggle to see what the return would be. The Council haven't seen it, the Crynes, I would imagine, have little disposable cash to invest themselves so how do you get a third party to invest in a football stadium. Other than advertising I guess. The Joe Bloggs Holdings Oakwell Arena anyone?
And we need properly to scout the players which are trying to sign. We have had a really good reputation for doing this in the past and have uncovered some gems. We need to start doing the same again by consulting with the right scouts, or sending out our own. Problem is that we won't be able to do much fresh scouting in the close season, but the spreadsheet might be a starting point, but we need to do much more due diligence on potential signings than we did last summer. The spreadsheet alone won't hack it, but it's a start. I agree with you about the need to be more targeted in the players we need, but that needs the appointment of a coach who will indicate what system(s) he wants to play and then re-construct the team around that. We need to get a wiggle on with the first team coach appointment, though. It really ought to be a new broom to start the rebuild.
We can't do our own scouting as we sacked all our scouts. We need to set up our scouting network again ( which doesn't cost a fortune) to make the above work
If there is redevelopment, what is there that is stopping the inclusion of extra units that the Council / Crynes can rent out to other businesses, or that the council can use directly? While Conway's approach was awful, there was a valid point in there. If the club renews the lease, without any redevelopment being done to the ground, the chances of the West Stand survival the lease term would be slim. At the moment, we seem to have a 14,000 capacity stadium crammed into a 23,000 seater stadium. That needs to be addressed.
Barnsley council own Oakwell, or part own it at least. It is used by and is to the benefit of thousands of Barnsley residents. They also own Barnsley Museums (Cannon Hall, Cooper Gallery, Elsecar Heritage Centre, Experience Barnsley, Worsbrough Mill). The council invest in these, spending council tax money. There is no reason at all why they can't also invest in Oakwell which is used by many more residents than many of the above. And they wouldn't have to use council tax money, they could use the money they receive in rent from the football club. They wouldn't even have to use all the rent, they could use maybe half of it. They could also strike a deal where by for every pound they spent on the ground, the Crynes who also receive rent will match it.
We have a network up and down the country That's not true at all. They were furloughed during Covid but nearly all of them were brought back. I think maybe one was unhappy at being furloughed though and was rather vociferous on Facebook hence the (incorrect) rumors. We have a network across the country though.
Of all the crazy things... I think that would have topped everything. A football club without scouts! Thank god it isn't the case.
Just a little reminder for those thinking that our stadium might somehow return soley to one ownership ....whilst ever the council own 50% no one can do a Mel Morris or a chansiri remortgage or take out massive loans against the club....then simply walk away leaving us with no where to play and in massive debt May I also remind folk the council and Patrick were at loggerheads over the councils stance on their share not being for sale when he wanted to buy them previously Claiming they were protecting the future of somewhere to play football in Barnsley by not selling Any development of the ground if any, i would say, will come from a joint partnership deal. I would suggest it will no doubt have to be a community project that benefits the Borough to justify any money spent We might yet see an all sports led project that sees more than men's football been played on the hallowed turf of Oakwell
Which is much better than Conway's proposed moves away from the town. Where I live, the rugby gound is Leigh Sports Village. The stadium is the main feature, but the site also includes the local athletics club, an amateur rugby club, council run gym, 6th form college, pub, hotel, supermarket, a couple of retail units plus some other units used by social enterprises or community projects. This was all built from scratch in a new site, so different to redeveloping an existing site, and relationships between stakeholders have been strained at times and the site's biggest failure was pricing the non-league football club out of the town. But it does show that development of a stadium, and the site that it sits in can be planned in a way that benefits the council/community both directly as well as indirectly via benefits to the football club.
My hopes are Khaled Out the man aint transparent he is more tinted glass or should that be tainted glass. Mrs Quay dunt turn out to be worse than Conway way down the line. The fans unite, although that aint going to happen with digs at other groups being had in this thread alone. This whole sorry state of affairs has shown me that the fans of today are as split as every other topic in life, take a side and stick to it no matter what. Jeez way to go peeps. In the end the owners sorted themselves out after just noise from supporters of which ever group. Still wont renew until I see some meat on them bones of that announcement and if Early bird has past may have to miss a season if I intend to return.
