Its happening again - fans on the pitch

Its wrong? He followed him abusing him. You wouldnt follow a bloke down street and abuse him and expect not to get a smack viera did right. He went to grab him but then kicked him the bloke falls over gets back up and back peddles when he realises viera is up for it. Todays problem is we live in a world where cowards take to twitter abuse people and get away with it bit different face to face

 

Cowards win too. Vieira will take the rap for this. It's not fair.

 

The simple solution is for the FA to charge and fine the clubs for not controlling their fans then work hand in hand with the said club to pursue the individual through the court system to recover the fine from them
Obviously for that to work the judicial system also needs to step up and impose a stronger deterrent ....minimum of full term 2 years sentence .....some may see this as harsh others not harsh enough...personally the idiots deserve all they get

 

I still don't agree with the invasion of the pitch. But sort of understand it. Been there, done that, as a young un. But it didn't happen till the end of the game and was always non aggressive. That's why I don't mind it happening tbf. (I don't get the older adults going loopy invading the pitch) and am prepared to wait a while for the pitch to be cleared. The players didn't start parading round the pitch till pretty modern times. They'd usually appear in the directors box prior to that.

 

if you read it as it was meant to be read , I meant technically it’s wrong in law but deserved in the circumstances.

 

yep, all the play miraculously moved to near the tunnel!

 

Unfortunately they won’t though, everybody will suffer for this

 

Let's be honest these pitch invasions in big games n especially play off games been happening for years. I remember been Plymouth last game season when we needed win to guarantee safety n right I front us we had police n police dog handlers it's the only way I can see them stopping mass pitch invasions.

 

I thought if Everton were deducted 3 points they would be relegated so make it 6 points to be sure.

 

I wonder if he'll play that for his grandkids in years to come?
"Is that you when you were a horrible little moron, Grandad?"

 

Lol having seen that the Everton fan went down quicker than a bird on wellington Street on a Friday night

 

I think you're right with this. I also think cocaine is playing a big part. I also don't think it's a question of left/right. I think these kids are used to hiding online, in the safety of their mothers' back bedroom. And then they let loose at the footy and are probably after their 15 mins of fame by butting a footballer or jumping in a manager's face. Pitch invasions used to be about celebrating, when fans couldn't contain their excitement and wanted to share in the glory on the pitch. I'm sure it was different in the 80s when you had proper football hooligans, but in the 90s it was about celebrating. Now you have those coked-up idiots ('hooligans', lol) who want to tell all their friends on social media that not only did they run on the field, they also assaulted an opposition player. It's very sad.

 

I always think it was worse in the seventies tbh, lots of fans constantly looking to get amongst the opposing fans.
Trouble is now after this many morons have done this in the last week , the authorities will be almost forced to act or can you imagine the outcry if and when a player or fan gets seriously hurt or worse?
Get that many fans on a pitch with a good chance of anonymity and it won't be long before before some pielark goes too far, even an accident with a flare.
Thing is what's the point of a few stewards round the pitch? about as much use as a chocolate teapot.
As somebody said before when it got near the end you used to have a line of coppers come out, sometimes with dogs and even then they used to struggle.

 

Do you think football hooliganism was at its worst in the seventies or eighties? You mention fans trying to get amongst more in the seventies, but I know attendances dropped in the eighties and I wonder if what was left were the real nasty b4stards and it got worse as a result? I may be wrong.. I've read books on different hooligan groups in the past but not for a while (Soul Crew and Chelsea Headhunters).

I think people invading now are making the mistake of thinking they have anonymity (maybe their online presence gives them a false sense of security?) - we are one of the most watched nations in the world, and with technology today it's much easier to identify people. Obviously if it's a big pitch invasion then it can be like looking for a needle in a haystack, but for these isolated incidents involving players/managers there is usually space around them and I think some of the culprits will get a shock when they suddenly find themselves in court.

Totally agree about the stewards/police. Why aren't they at least surrounding players/managers until they have left the field, particularly if they are being threatened or abused? I do think it's an end-of-season thing with these invasions, but it's worrying all the same.

 

I don't blame the stewarding at football grounds for any of this. They are mostly totally out of their depth when it comes to confrontations or even chasing people across the pitch. It was amusing watching the Northampton match the other day where a handful of clearly overweight and unfit stewards tried to run after a perpetrator. They're just trying to do a lowly paid job but failing miserably, but mostly through lack of numbers. There just aren't enough to prevent individual or mass pitch invasions. An exception, of course, was that brave guy in the top tier at Wembley who got between our fans and the marauding Millwall morons. Well, he was either brave or stupid because it's hard to see why he did what he did but thank goodness he was there.

I'm getting sick and tired of people and tv pundits trying to justify this idea of running on the pitch at the end of the match. "They're entitled to celebrate; they're letting of steam; they're just overwhelmed by the promotion/saving from relegation scenario". No sorry - it's criminal behaviour ESPECIALLY when they take the opportunity to physically or verbally abuse players and officials. The whole game is changing, and not for the better. Again, the other night, a few idiots were over the small fence to join in the goal celebrations. Why do they think it's ok to do that? I really hope every single one of them gets taken away and ends up in court with a big fine and a banning order. It's time people started behaving themselves otherwise fatalities or serious injuries will surely come of this kind of cretinous behaviour. When that happens the enquiries will rumble on - "How did that happen? We never saw that coming? It's a sad day for the game but we will do better". Yeah, right!!

 

definitely seventies imho , away matches were nearly always ‘interesting’ and you needed to be very aware.
It was also more open and obvious in those days too, skins, gangs with doc martins, colours worn openly.