posties striking soon

........probably?
how many would think it greedy rejecting a 5.5% increase given the current climate?

 

Not me

 

Me neither. Why should folk effectively be working for less, given the rise in the cost of living. 5.5% is nothing.

 

Certainly not me. Inflation at 9%. The posties effectively taking a hit at 5.5%. I think that the given the state of the economy and the callous attitude of this government we could be in for much industrial - and possibly civil - unrest.

 

https://amp.theguardian.com/busines...-726m-profit-amid-pandemic-demand-for-parcels
they can afford a decent pay rise

 

Definitely not. All delivery firms are going thru these negotiations at the moment. We’ve all rejected the same offer. Thankfully GMB are now representing us who are self employed too.

 

background to the offer reported in the tory press that it's 5.5%, we've been offered a 2% raise backdated from april, a further 1.5% not backdated and dependant on us giving up certain benefits, none of which will they or our own union disclose and another 2% productivity bonus that nobody will ever hit!
also would mean us working sundays which are optional as now
a ft posties weekly income has risen around £50 before tax in the last 5 years! n it's a tough physical job despite what you think

 

The two regular postmen we have at work are elated with what they've been offered. Would they be getting a different offer because they deliver to business premises or are they just easily pleased?

 

each to their own, they will have a vote to accept or decline, i'm yet to meet an old skool postie who will accept it, but 2% after paying out £400m to shareholders in january, not many are employees now btw, it's the propaganda the tory press spin, i can't even link us to keyworkers from the nhs during covid peak, but we were run ragged for 18 months making the company millions

 

The two in talking about are probably early 50s and early 60s and have been postmen for 30 years for one (as hes told me) and at least 15 for the others (as I've known him that long) so I'd say they're old school in so much as they've been around a while. I just wondered if their contracts were different as the collections are business or if they genuinely were just easily pleased.

In another note. Why do payrises like this tend to always be back dated? Is it because the arguing/negotiations have been going on that long?

 

I retire in 8 months after nearly 40 years and iam knackered by time i get home and iam definitely not afraid of work. We get £20 a week for taking leaflets which no body wants and they want to take that off us. We have been offered 2% not 5.5
and they want us to deliver longer in winter because its the busiest time and less hours in Summer because many people are on holiday. Parcels have gone through the roof and most days if not all you can't get finished on time so have to work over or leave some which is shocking having to do this when customers have paid good money. This is not a moan just an explanation of what's going on. Glad iam ready to retire but plenty are getting other jobs and a few are walking out. A strike won't solve owt that evil Thatcher saw to that with the Miners.

 

That sounds like the only good part of the deal. More time to enjoy yourself when it's warm

 

Lol not fun in the cold and dark though. Still better then what most of the NHS staff have to put up with.

 

Maybe they have just seen the 5 5% bit and not read the finer detail?

 

pay amongst regular posties is the same, they get backdated because the crap cwu and head office don't start talks until mar/apr and i can only think the 2 guys you know are on a cushy number awaiting retirement with no mortgage, it is now definitely a job for the young but not a career

 

Yes, I bet it’s fekin great being out for longer hours in the colder, damper winter months

 

Backdated payrises are common in most industries. Traditionally April (new tax year) being the date rises take place from. I've known talks begin 4 months before. By the time it goes to ballot for acceptance or rejection can be after april. And if rejected go months beyond. Always with the rise backdated when the workforce accept the new increase.
Eg. I've had backdated payrises in September.
This years payrise has backfired. As a 2yr deal was agreed the last time. A 3% rise. You win some you lose some. ( compared to inflation at the time that is)
RPI and CPI are a tactic normally used by employers to indicate inflation. Whichever is the lower is the yardstick they normally employ during negotiations. They can vary one way or the other year on year.

 

Definitely not what i joined lol,these new young uns running round getting done early don't realise they are killing the job cos i certainly can't run round lol.

 

no details have been announced, 2% offer then a further 2% and 1.5% depending on what they want back off us, we get full sick pay for 6 months, paid breaks etc, things that the union have fought to keep over the years

 

New starters won't get sick leave for first six months.