Bring Stendel Back

Also his heart wasn’t in it , distracted looking for another job , and his record after leaving us is nothing short of abysmal

 

His heart wasn't in it because the board insist on managers achieving results with one arm tied behind their back. Exactly the same thing happened to Hecky. Having the core of your defence stripped out and replaced by two kids with no league experience and then seeing your joint top scorer leave a couple of days before the season's start (and all this when we've just moved up into a much harder division) would have me looking for alternatives.

 

I seem to remember the BBS views from the Summer of 2018. There were many who insisted that we would be in for another relegation battle. Some of the reasons:-
The new Head Coach couldn't speak a word of English;
The new Head Coach had no experience of Division 1, so it was 100% certain he would fail, as that was 100% necessary to win promotion;
ALL of our players were losers and used to losing as the norm;
Specifically, all our three central defenders (Lindsay, Pinnock, Jackson) were incapable of heading a ball;
After the 0-0 draw at home to AFC Wimbledon, Stendel had been 'found out';
As a follow up, the wily fox Keith Hill would ensure we would get a footballing lesson at Rochdale the following Tuesday night.
Also, after we won promotion automatically for the first time in 22 years, we even had some claiming we were lucky as it was the weakest Division 1 EVER & we only went up because Portsmouth and Sunderland 'bottled it'!

 

i dont think Andreas Winkler isnt doing anything at the moment

 

They did bottle it lil. Undoubtedly. I suppose the counter argument to that is that in our crucial moments we didn't bottle it and so ended up with more points than them. Their failing not ours.
I don't know what to think of Stendel. He took up a squad of players that really should have been very close to going up. He struggled after the heart was ripped out of his team in a masterstroke of Conway ineptitude. Nothing he's done since convinces me he could repeat the job but I'm beginning to worry about who we actually will end up with so maybe Stendel would be ok.
I'm thinking it's looking likely that promotion next season is nothing more than blue sky thinking and the reality is a season of, at the very best, consolidation. Maybe we're struggling to persuade potential coaches to see us as a safe step forward at the moment.

 

They simply weren't good enough. We were. I fail to understand the logic that claims whenever we've been successful, it's due to the incompetence of others, luck and any other pathetic reason other than our deserved achievements.

 

It's sort of what I was saying. They weren't good enough to take their opportunities when the pressure was on. We were.

 

Back in 1979, there were some old timers who claimed we were lucky and Aldershot should've gone up. Two years later, again we were lucky and Huddersfield deserved it more than us. 1997 the same argument was trotted out, only this time it was Wolves who were unlucky. Again in 2006, we shouldn't have won promotion, but Swansea should. Jump forward 10 years and Scunthorpe United deserved to be in the Play Offs, not us. 2019 was no different. Neither was 2021 under Val.
All claims of us being lucky, the poorest quality of the Division ever, looking to downplay our success's and all claims were from Barnsley fans.

 

No you said it was their failings, whereas big lil rightfully argues that it was our successes that were front and centre taking us up. Stendel built a winning culture, teams feared us. He made Oakwell a fortress and, despite the very high press, made it very difficult for teams to score against us while bagging a lot of goals ourselves. Stendel and that team deserve all the credit they get. Every team has bumps in the road remember ('failings'), but our quality, strength of character and the winning, fearless culture that Daniel created are ultimately what took us up.

 

No. I'm saying that when they were under pressure they bottled it. When we were under pressure we didn't.
Again...they bottled it. We didn't. I'm not sure how I can make it clearer that my view is that we were better and deserved it because we DIDN'T bottle it.

 

I know you’re a football fan but have you really that little patience?

 

No worries Churton, i don't wish to be at loggerheads with you. But i don't agree

 

Andreas was and would be again, a great Sporting Director. It was a good move by Bob Hassall to bring in Dale Tongue, a gamble which was successful. Since Andreas left,we have had no one in that role. The Ownership group like to employ CEOs who do it,but sadly are sometimes not competent in either role.

 

There are some posts in this thread which seem to be trying to rewrite history. The truth is that we had a wonderful season in league one, we got promoted and as usual when entering the Championship, the side is weakened not strengthened. Was that the summer that P Conway used the phrase "best transfer window ever "? Whatever, it's all in the past,Daniel surrounded with the right staff and competent squad and a united, patient board,might possibly steady the ship. Whoever becomes the next coach,needs the same ingredients.
It is not looking good for the club,with just over a week to full pre-season starting and still no one employed.
Avoiding relegation and becoming solvent are the priorities, the personality of the individual and their popularity with supporters is immaterial to achieving this.

 

Attribution theory. Negative people view their achievements as luck, and failings down to their own inadequacy. Positive people see it the other way round.

 

Ditto. We deserved to go up because we met our challenges. Sunderland and Portsmouth didn't because they couldn't. We put the points on the board. They couldn't match it. And we played good football.

 

Whilst we did have an outstanding first 11 it should be pointed out that it wasn’t a strong squad.

Victor was third striker. Ben Williams even played central midfield on occasion.

Moore & Woodrow probably only played a third of the season together as well with Woodrow’s never ending injury at the start of the season & Moore missing nearly all of the second half of the season.

And whilst we might think we had a better set of individuals than Luton I’m sure Sunderland looked at us & thought they had a better set of players than us. It was still a great season.

 

They started 11 league matches together. In one of those Woodrow went off after 42 minutes and in another Moore was withdrawn at half time.

 

Top man is Daniel Stendel but they say never return. On saying that he is my choice if the
M Duff and Warnock talks don't work out. Daniel S is a nice fella and was sacked unfairly IMO.

 

yeah he needs a rematch with Barton.