Another Bradford City season-ticket thread.

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  1. Jimmy viz

    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    None of the people I know including myself are renewing because of the product in the pitch. Owners. Poor match day experience. My mate Jim because he is sick of not being able to get a hot drink on a cold day without missing 10 minutes of the game.

    I think as a poor northern town we can lead. We used to lead. We can again. We learnt from the mistakes we made in the miners strike and rebuilt a community based club. We had the passport to leisure scheme. Match day pricing was realistic. We can lead again.
     
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    The merchandise is a different revenue stream to the cost of admittance. The number of scarves we sell has nothing to do with how much you pay on the gate, just like the amount of Minions tat they sell doesn't affect how much they charge you to get into the film. The cost of producing a film is offset through ticket sales over a number of weeks in thousands of locations, subsequent sales of the film on Blu Ray or downloads, and licensing for streaming services or broadcast. The club get to charge on one given day, or via season tickets in advance. Comparing the two is pretty daft. The fact you can go twice a day to Cineworld at all underlines that point.

    Come to think of it, the season ticket pricing also entitles the holder to attend matches for the u23s and below (and women's too now?) so that's even better value for money than we thought. If you've got time to go to Cineworld twice a day then you can turn up to see our u11s.
     
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    I will still go to as many away games as I can. I have just made a decision not to attend Oakwell until I see real change.

    The season tickets are good at the same time if there is a finite amount of ‘give’ in the system then this would be better spread across match day pricing as well. In the last 2 seasons my kids tickets got used 4 times. The subsidy would have been better targeted across the board.
     
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    There is a huge problem with your final paragraph:

    That is only your view.

    As a fan of many years, you are apparently happy to watch league two or potentially non-league football at Oakwell as a consequence of charging less money.

    A lot would not want this risk. And twenty might be plenty but people wouldn’t want to pay that much if for example we ended up dropping a level or two further as a direct consequence. So would we have to drop prices again to get more in?

    We won’t have anyone on £500k next season. We won’t be paying £10k a week. But if and when we get back to championship level, in reality we will have to. Is it a fair amount of money to pay a footballer? No. But when there are players in the league above earning more than £500k per week, never mind a year, it trickles down.

    If we took a ‘stand’, and no other club came along with us, how many players do you think would sign for us on reduced terms because they liked our morals? If we only charge league two or non-league gate prices and only offer league two or non-league wages then we are only going to end up there. And that is a price I wouldn’t want to pay.

    And more to the point, we’ve had several games with drastically reduced ticket prices to attract people. It didn’t work. Barely increased the gate.

    Bradford has a huge catchment area to tap into. Reducing prices increased their gates and levelled out the net income, potentially increasing it with food and drink sales etc.

    If we reduce ticket prices it will just reduce income. It’s never attracted that many more in the past, why would it now?
     
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    so to clarify will the club run any number of games I want to see at times that suit me?

    you are right daft to compare the 2 I mean the cinemas don’t get a cut of the minions tat. Great point well made.

    Just a straight comparison. Watching the reds battle to a nil nil draw on a freezing cold February for 60 quid or a trip to a nice warm cinema to see the latest blockbuster for 15 quid. Take all sentiment out. Just analyse the leisure experience of 2 events that last roughly the same amount t of time. What do you as a family on a limited income choose. Honest answers only. No prevarication.
     
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    Yes you are right. Let’s do nothing. It’s serving us so well. Bradford clearly show you can make it work. A token cheap game every 18 months achieves nothing. Then you justify doing nothing because your tokenism achieves nothing.
     
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    Please put these sort of things to the Trust, and of course, I'll log anything like this myself. We do have positive meetings and discussions. We went back to a 'season ticket' based on what we were told at forums, meetings with supporter groups etc. I understand the lack of faith considering the last few years. But there's genuine change afoot and over time it'll be apparent. I think some patience will be needed, and I also appreciate I'm often seen as a puppet, which is why I tend to steer clear of discussion on most topics these days.

    But the change is real and it'll reveal itself more and more over time.

    Completely agree on matchday pricing. I think there's space there to get to £20 regardless of fixture. I think categories are gone this coming season though, and it'll be no more than £25 regardless of opposition. That's what I last heard anyway. I'm sure we'll communicate pricing for matchdays in the near future.
     
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    Season tickets at Barnsley are priced very well. For kids they're excellent, just brilliant. Match day ticket prices are really not good at all. I'd go as far as to say unaffordable for many. I really wish this was looked at.
     
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    Fair enough. Good riddance.
     
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    the answer of someone who doesn’t want to answer a straight question
     
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    Sounds promising. Hope all that comes off. It’s the hope that kills you.
     
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    If we’re in competition with cinemas then we are in competition with all entertainment forms.

    How much would it cost to take a family of four to the theatre? Any theatre - then, compare it to, I don’t know, a west end show. The lion king maybe. What are decent seats there? £120 each? More? And no concessions.

    Tickets to a music gig. I took my girls to see Ed chuffing Sheeran in Sunderland the other week. Crazy money.

    I genuinely wish football was cheaper to attend. But it isn’t. I don’t want this club at any level lower than it finds itself now. Lowering prices would take us there.

    If a competitive game for a cheaper price at a lower level is attractive, get to Penistone Church. Good honest folk there, and they deserve support.
     
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    Bored of cherry picked examples. Would much rather pay £50 to see an exciting 4:3 on a crisp November evening than waste £25 to see a crap film. I actually paid money to see Geostorm. Still if you don't want to it's no skin off my nose, cheerio.
     
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    Paid £77 today for two adults and a child on the Dartmouth steam railway. £55 for the same to the zoo. £40 to Cannon Hall as two year olds have to pay.
     
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    ''Completely agree on matchday pricing. I think there's space there to get to £20 regardless of fixture. I think categories are gone this coming season though, and it'll be no more than £25 regardless of opposition. That's what I last heard anyway. I'm sure we'll communicate pricing for matchdays in the near future.''

    So we charge 25 at home and for those that go away we get charged 35.

    GREAT
     
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    Exactly. A touch of realism is needed.

    We have been and remain among the cheapest priced for both match day and season tickets at the level in which we’ve played.

    The overall price paid has barely increased in over a decade - match day prices were well in excess of £20 in the 2000’s, and certainly in the 2010’s.

    Absolutely everything else costs more. Fuel. Food. Utilities. The club isn’t immune.
     
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    Can’t imagine we were actually interested in a 31 year old. Certainly can’t imagine we were offering him game time. For the same reason Cundy came to us, I’m guessing Smallwood went to Bradford, snubbing teams in the league above in the process.
     
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    It is great isn't it. It's brilliant actually if the club do that. I'm glad you realise how good it is that Barnsley FC have said "no higgy. Just because Sheffield Wednesday are charging you £35 to watch Barnsley at Hillsborough we won't charge you £35 to watch Barnsley at oakwell. We will not punish you twice higgy, we will only charge you £25 for watching Barnsley at oakwell". I'm glad you realise how GREAT that is
     

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