Vitamin D and healthy gut bacteria

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  1. Ome

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    Any fermented food is good for healthy gut bacteria. I make my own milk Kefir and make a smoothie for my breakfast every day. Love the stuff. Kefir, oats, blueberries, honey, protein powder and banana. Its gorgeous. Get a fresh batch every 4 days and really easy to make.

    Also have a look at the company 4d pharma - they are in the UK and currently doing trials for things such as cancer, IBS, neuro degenerative diseases such as parkinsons and altzheimers where first phase clinical trials have shown to not only stop the disease but recover dead cells. MJ Fox org have just taken a big interest in the study.

    And since the pandemic i have taken vitamin d, zinc and vitamin c supplements, I'm convinced our winter virus issue is related to sunlight hours. Look at the covid cases and then compare that with the sunlight! We even have a drop in cases (delayed) in line with the clocks going back - was that the lockdown, coincidence or sunlight!? Is it also why places like NZ and australia have been able to get the cases down to zero in line with good social distancing etc?

    Its an interesting subject for sure.
     
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    Got bad heartburn other day , beers and fish and chips induced at Whitby , one shot of lemon juice and two minutes later heartburn had gone .
     
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    Agree. same with me. I wrongly quoted vitamin B in another thread a while back on Arthritis. As I decided to get tested. (my hands were stiffening) Came back with Vitamin D deficiency. Been taking it ever since. Not perfect but improved dramatically.
     
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    I stuff terrible hayfever june to sept . Currently sneezing for the 100th time today . I tske anti hist but not perfect. Which vit d is it to take . Brand to buy is good for you guys.

    Its so bad i hate the summer dread it, sneeze, itchy pallet, sore eyes and watery eyes, wheezing. Gets you so down
     
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    Recently installed a kitchen for a bloke who works for Willy's farm,and gifted me a selection of there apple cider vinegar.good stuff.
     
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    Beer is fermented. Does that count?
     
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    Don't remember ever having cod liver oil capsules with my warm milk at Kings Road just the milk. I do remember my Gran giving me Cod liver oil and Malt extract which actually wasnt bad
    Been taking a vitamin D suppliment for a couple of years since reading it was good for the immune system. Cant say if its really doing any good but haven't had a cold since of course limiting social contact and mask wearing must also have helped. I did have a bout of Covid but only mildly affected so its likely the vitamin D helped but I cant say for certain as I am sure the vaccines also had a significant influence.
     
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    Probiotics are actually really good for your mental health too. Health gut, healthy brain.

    The thing is we just simply can't get everything we need from food anymore. I listened to nutritionist a while back say that to get the same amount of nutrients from an orange or a carrot as you have in 1930, you have to eat 15 of each.

    So it's good to supplement as best you can. I take a multi vitamin, fish oils, magnesium (which helps for many things) and vitamin D.
     
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    Apple Cider Vinegar and anything pickled - sauerkraut, etc. I also have a good recipe book called "the clever guts diet recipe book." Alcohol is really bad for your gut microbiome too, since I quit drinking my stomach is much less sensitive to food and I have taken maybe 2 hay fever tablets this year in total thats despite the "pollen bomb".
     
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    There's a strong correlation between the introduction of vitamin D supplements and food products fortified with vitamin D and the rapid rise in conditions like asthma and hay-fever.
     
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    I find that hard to believe. Not saying you are wrong but I'd like some supporting evidence - do you have any link to a research paper on this
     
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    Never heard that before, be interested to read that if you have a link?
     
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    In fairness, I think I got it wrong. I think they said food now has around 20-30% of the nutritional content it once did. I can't remember who it was who said it now, but they were expert nutritionists, so I had no reason to doubt what they were saying. It was a while back. It was on a podcast but I can't remember which one.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/soil-depletion-and-nutrition-loss/

    Quote from the above article: Yet another study concluded that one would have to eat eight oranges today to derive the same amount of Vitamin A as our grandparents would have gotten from one.
     
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    Interesting read - new for me that but in summary it looks like you can either have Rickets or Hayfever/Asthma though I expect there is an optimum level of vitamin D
    There are other possibilities though cleanliness has improved significantly in the same time period so it could be the immune system doesnt get the same work to do early on
     
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    Are you taking the right type of antihistamine? I don’t mean brand but the actual ingredient. There’s a couple of main types and only one works for Will. He’s completely fine if he takes one and an absolute eye swelling mess if he takes the other (or none at all).
     
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    I'll share a couple of things that have changed my life:

    Obviously I'm just a person on'tinternet, but this was all stuff I researched from actual studies a la BMJ, Harvard etc, not pulled out my ass. I'll see if I can find some primary sources.

    Curcumin/Turmeric with pepperine (black pepper) capsules, once a day: Regulates inflammation and blood sugar levels.
    Chromium: Have a stash and just take one before a huge 'cheat' meal, takeaway etc. Stops your blood sugar from spiking so high, so you release less insulin, and store less fat.

    Some vitamins/supplements to actively avoid:

    Iron: Most cases of anaemia are actually a Magnesium deficiency, not iron. Magnesium and iron compete with one another for absorbtion, and taking iron can actually make your symptoms worse, whilst also giving you a whacking belly ache.

    Vitamins A & E: We're not usually deficient in these, and too high a dose can be detrimental

    Anything containing Omega 6: We get too much of this already, and it competes with Omega 3. Omega 3 reduces inflammation, Omega 6 promotes it.
     
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    Actimel, sauerkraut and leafy greens keep my otherwise rebellious gut in check
     

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