BFCST Update: Hex Sponsorship

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  1. Dan

    DannyWilsonLovechild Well-Known Member

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    He was a lawyer at Walker Morris before going into being an agent at Wasserman Media.
     
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    Like how you’d ignored the rest of what I said, all valid and true points btw but wasn’t Dane Murphy a CEO at his previous club? If not he had a similar role to CEO. Wasn’t just a scout like El-Ahmed.
     
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    Marc Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I think he was technical director at a few clubs in U.S after he retired as a player. First CEO role was us though, I think.
     
  4. Indie Red

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    Fair enough. With that sort of role you’d imagine he still had experience of running the day to day operations of a football club. Not just scouting players.
     
  5. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Not sure there's any need for the antagonistic reply. Was a valid and open question mate. Hence the follow up messages with people discussing it.

    Dane Murphy was a Technical Director in the MLS. Possibly close to a CEO, but possibly not. I've no idea and likely some skills that transferred over well and other that needed to be developed. He was good at it though and a crying shame the previous Chairman let him go so easily.
     
  6. Dan

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    Unless you actually do the job of MD or CEO, there will be gaps in your knowledge, though you can overcome that if you have the right people around you and can make up for it in other ways if you have the right traits and skillset.

    It's harder still in a small company because you're going to have to get your hands dirty and be at least competent when it comes to detail. The added kicker at a football club is you've some very distinct practices that are hard to replicate outside of the industry, but again, you should be able to lean on others and manage their knowledge. On top of that you've got the media and a lot of scrutiny from your fanbase, plus the wider sector which generates plenty of chatter.

    It's not an easy job at all, and given we believe we can't afford an experienced MD/CEO (though I very much believe we could), we recruit on other factors which mean a candidates experience is modest.

    We've done ok in some appointments, well in others and dreadful in others still.

    Patrick got rid of Linton Brown very quickly when he saw he wasn't able to do the job. El Ahmad is still here however.
     
  7. Loko the Tyke

    Loko the Tyke Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    The way we use a CEO isn’t traditional anyway. Probably more akin to a Technical Director. That’s why we can bring in people like Gauthier, Mansford and Dane. It always comes across as less about the commercial and financial side (leave that to your Marketing Director and Financial Director) and more about the structure within the football club, attending the league meetings, academy, contracts, etc.

    World’s apart from an Ed Woodward for example.
     
  8. Indie Red

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    No antagonising going off this end, just find it funny you edited what I said when replying to what I wrote. I haven’t made the Djurgårdens IF-Dubai sponsorship deal fiasco up about El-Ahmed, it genuinely happened. I did ask the ST to get a comment from him and explain his side but it never has been put to him. Strange. Don’t take my word for it though, I’m sure you could ask an actual Djurgårdens IF supporter about it and they’ll tell you about it, that’s all I did.

    And you’re absolutely reight it was a big shame the previous chairman let Murphy go, was an even bigger shame when he hired the current CEO and subsequently allowed him to do all the things he has. When the previous chairman left this summer so should’ve the CEO.
     
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    You’re replying here like people don’t use the quote function like this a hundred times a day. It wasn’t cutting anything out, just picking the reply. Not going to get drawn on speculation, but also not going to tell you it isn’t true. I’ve no idea and there was no need to mention anything about it. Nothing funny there.

    That question never came across my eyes, otherwise it would have been asked like every other question that’s come through at the right times e.g. fan engagement forum, Q&A, filmed interviews, etc.
     
  10. Indie Red

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    Well you have my permission to ask him about it next time you conduct anything with him.

    But if it turns out he was heavily involved in setting up this Hex sponsorship deal, then hopefully he won’t be there for another Q&A.
     
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    Customer Charter can be reworded at a moments notice like PC and his lackies did in the past.
     
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    This HEX thing is confusing the fook outta me !?!
     
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    Read this

    https://wantfi.com/richard-hearts-hex-token-is-a-brilliant-scam.html

    And then add on beyond this all the hate filled responses to fans and anyone else (the sponsor thread clearly gives all the bilge they post) so I did not need to add onto that, but bring forward what hex appears to be beyond the offensive posts they make
     
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    Or not!!!!
     
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    Cheers. I've read it but it must be out of my understanding, and I consider myself quite smart.

    If I wanted to give HEX a grand for instance. What would it be spent on, would I get a return in cash, could I lose it? I really don't get it. I might be been a bit fick but seriously don't understand 'invisible money'!?!?
     
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    nezbfc Well-Known Member

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    Reading that. Your grand goes to the earlier adopters. You would then toil like crazy to get others into the scheme (promote, harass, debunk etc) In order for your return to materialise.

    You obviously would now hold hex but bought for using Ethereum. And basically at the point they can no longer recruit new investers, it all crashes and you end up with nothing. Unless you offload yours quick enough even if it has any value at that point. Meanwhile the original start up investers have millions in Ethereum they can offload and sell at any time....
     
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    Kin ell. I might adopt that strategy for next fanzine as I Google www.wherecanibuyanislandreteat. com
     
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    The problem for a lot of people is knowing when to stop. Your mate as an example is at £65k and if he cashed out now and those shares turned into £1m in 5 years time he’d kick himself. That’s why it’s so addictive, there’s always the potential to make more money and always the potential to make your losses back. There simply is no clear end game.
     
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    So in essence his 1k buys free stock(Ethereum) for existing people who can’t lose when they cash it in, but you have to coerce others into providing you with free stock?
     
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    You buy the stock (hex) using Ethereum. They give you the hex stock in exchange.

    Your then at the mercy of lots more investors doing the same for your hex stock to sell to the next load of investors.

    But keep in mind, the originators (which have no limit on how many hex will be produced) continue to receive Ethereum. So if hex crashes and everyone comes wise to it being akin to a pyramid scheme. Guess what, they have Ethereum and can still sell that. Your hex however, is now worthless. (And you heavily penalised for selling early) as each invest has minimum terms before you can sell. Giving longer and longer for more people to join, until no one does.
     

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