My view on Kahled

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  1. Durkar Red

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    He didn’t do many or rarely got involved in fan events albeit was Covid , his popularity had more to do with Vals side doing well , early doors I remember quite a bit of negativity towards him and questions about the role of his partner at the club . He seemed alright to me but kept a low profile.
     
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    Which goes against BMW's claim that Dane only became popular after he left
     
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    He became more popular when the team started playing well and his major success Dyke
     
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    The part in America?
     
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    That's absolutely correct Durkar.
    There was lots of negativity towards him and his wife.
    Dane was a loss for sure, but people are deluding themselves if their memory tells them he was well liked.
     
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    All our previous CEO/General Manager types have had horror shows and haven’t been liked at various stages.

    Peter Risdale - that infamous ‘bond’ scheme
    Don Rowing/Gordon Shepherd - Colchester stub and four tickets per season ticket holder for Liverpool
    Don Rowing/Gordon Shepherd - the whole Andy Richie sacking. Signing of Kim Christiansen(?) without consultation
    Ben Mansford - his ******** Ben moniker and also that disastrous club badge project which they had to shelve
    GG - appointed Morais and took us down from the Championship. Benefited from some amazing PR ideas from the team at the club that he could put his name to though
    Dane - the 21-word statement, being silent for far too long in the first nine months, his partner’s role with the Academy, the Ludwig statement, the drawn out process for appointing Val, American lingo like Divisional Retention
    Khaled - West Stand, Poya, this sponsorship issue, and the ‘no bids’ comment in the press

    I assume other football clubs are the same but I’m not always so sure. It’s rarely a quiet period for this football club.
     
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    I guess you deliberately left out a list for Conway during his "caretaker" role....

    You'd still be typing into next year
     
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    Jeez. What an oversight……..

    Not included Doyle or Sean Lewis either. There was even ‘Dennis Out’ before we got to the Prem.
     
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    It’s one of them situations where it’s best for all parties to let him go. Thanks for his efforts, but it’s not worked out. The Hex situation being the straw that broke the camels back.
     
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    The CEO may be "doing his best" problem is all the evidence points to his best being nowhere near good enough
     
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    Even if you give him Duff as his one (premature) success, even that only arose after his incompetence on Zoom that lost him his long-courted alleged favourite JFH :) (God help us if we'd ended up with JFH!)

    For all the massive footballing and non-footballing errors (not sacking Schopp early enough, appointing Asbaghi, inadequate transfer window, West stand debacle, early bird payment options etc, I could go on and on) he simply hasn't grasped and put in play what are always the fundamentals of any CEO role (in addition to the strategic leadership which again I'd say is lacking).

    The CEO is the Accountable Officer, no ifs, no buts. The buck stops with him/her. The first thing any competent CEO would do is to review the System of Internal Control and ensure there are appropriate checks and balances, adequate schemes of delegation and oversight, functioning standard operating policies and procedures and fully functional risk identification and management processes in place.

    Even our core policies aren't up-to-date - I was shocked today to find that what has to be one of the most important policies in the club, the Equality Policy, was over a year out of date and hadn't been reviewed since Dane Murphy was in post.

    I've worked with around 15 different CEOs over the years in organisations with turnover averaging £0.5bn. Only one of those CEOs was paid more than Khaled is seemingly getting but none would have let this Hex deal get so far.
     
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    Wouldn't surprise me if Duff was recommended by James/Jean
     
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    Genuine question, as I don’t know where to look, but where are we predicting Khaled’s salary from? I’ve seen someone say £180k a year and others suggest £250k a year
     
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    I want to praise him like I should!
     
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    If I was conservatively predicting Khaled's pay cost to the club I'd use the £196k highest paid director number quoted in the last published accounts and add Employers NI to arrive at £220k. (Khaled's start pay may have been lower than Murphy's but I doubt it, it may equally have been higher. Then there may be one or two years' pay awards if applicable to add to that to get from 20/21 accounts to 22/23 costs).

    Both of those figures exceed the comparisons I was making anyway.
     
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    I’ve always assumed that Conway and Co were taking the chunky salaries as directors. The world has moved on a lot, and I’m not privy to anything official, but I was always led to believe that in the Brown/Mansford/GG days we struggled to get them to six figures.
     
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    Goes from one calamity to the next.
     
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    If that's what you think and you think that such payments were being made via club payroll that's your prerogative. The evidence I see in accounts however says to me that the that the main director figures set out there will be those of the 'employed' directors, Murphy, Zuk etc, not the 'owner' directors.

    If Conway did take substantial sums as acting CEO between Murphy and Khaled they would mainly appear in 2021/22 accounts.

    Could be true but the highest paid director numbers have only been reported separately for the last 3 years and there was a near doubling in 2018/19. If apparently more competent predecessors were paid much less it puts Khaled's performance into even sharper relief.
     
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    I could be completely wrong. I’m just chatting out loud, as it were, and struggling to remember Dane’s response when we asked him this question about director payments a couple of years ago.
     
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    Surely how much he's getting paid is an irrelevance.
    If we're only paying him 30 grand a year does that make his **** ups acceptable?
    I'm firmly of the opinion we need to hold our fire until we know who brokered the Hex deal.
    Also the Duff appointment WAS a success. Warnock apart Duff was the first choice for many posters. W e got him. That was a remit achieved. We could bring in Pep and there'd be no guarantee of success under our current circumstances.
    That said I think, overall, from the outside looking in Khaled's tenure has been pretty poor and if he WAS responsible for the HEX deal he should go.
     

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