With Truss in charge

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  1. lk3

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    Sure the rumours of Goves parties will raise their head
     
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    Gimson&theBarnsleys Well-Known Member

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    Giving head?
     
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    Sestren Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty sure you know that you haven't got it right. There isn't a country in the world which allocates constituency representatives based on a proportional vote of the entire population.
     
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    I think she’s opened a few pork markets closer to home if you Google it……interesting appointment to chancellor….hmmmm
     
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    There was dirty dossier doing the rounds a while ago and she’s all over it.
     
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    Engineers have a saying, " Never trust a Truss".
     
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    We were never going to have a "brown prime minister". It stinks. Politics is decided higher up than us mere voters. Behind the rosette they're all same. A dark day.

    Sunak was the best option because in spite of his millions he had a heart and compassion.

    Truss is a Maggie wanabe. More worrying is she's got big boots to try and fill we're all FC uked.

    Those who wanted Johnson out look what you've got now. Starmer won't get in in a FC. Uking month of Sundays.
     
  8. Red

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    PR is certainly complicated and I acknowledged in my post that I wasn't too sure I'd got it right.

    Can you explain how it works ?
     
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    what percentage of those who voted were under 50 !!!!
     
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    also what cricketers use when protecting their balls - and she aint got any!!in more ways than 1
     
  11. Mr C

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    Politics Live just referred to Liz Truss's bulging inbox. Thanks for that image..:eek: 305488307_626968762121607_8448141880871205280_n.jpg
     
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    So true.

     
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    So in Ireland it works like this.

    There are 10 candidates. You vote for them all in number of preference, for example you are a Labour fan and vote Labour 1, Lib Dem 2, Green 3 etc down to Tory 9 and UKIP 10.

    Your vote goes to your number one candidate in the first round and the candidate with the least votes is eliminated. If your candidate is eliminated your vote goes to your second choice and so on until the numbers are whittled down.

    It leads to a lot of more centrist coalition governments and a lot of compromise which is good in that the country wouldn't be constantly dragged from one side to the other, but bad in that it is slow in making decisive decisions and there can be a lot of infighting within a coalition. In the UK the centre and left would love it as there is only one real right wing party whereas the centre and left is split a number of different ways.
     
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  15. Red

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    I totally get what you're saying in your last paragraph but have difficulty getting my head round the mechanics of the system you describe.
    Presumably in countries with PR the electorate are happy with it as there doesn't seem to be any great opposition.

    (o/t In the Senedd each constituency has a Member and each constituency has a Regional member. The latter is elected on a system of PR. Ynys Mon has a Plaid Member in the Senedd - a Tory MP in Westminster and a Labour Member representing the Island in the Senedd.)
     
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    Next health secretary they reckon. Bring back Hancock. She looks the picture of health doesn't she? Overweight, smoking and drinking. The face of health in our government...It's amazing how many politicians are jack of all trades, masters of nothing with now many different roles within a cabinet they can be moved to.

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    Get in there, Dreamy.. ;)
     
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    I think he's describing the Single Transferable Vote system as described here.
    https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/voting-systems/types-of-voting-system/single-transferable-vote/

    Edit; It's debatable which of the alternative voting system is the best but let's face it any one of them would be orders of magnitude better than what we have now. This shows how many votes per MP each party got in the last 3 elections.

    Votes.jpg
     
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    Interesting use of language on her speech.
    Johnson was a hugely consequential Pm.
    Correct, we’re all suffering the consequences.
     
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