The Queen has died

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  1. Redstone

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    Honestly can't say I have a answer to that myself, I dare say someone more versed in the subject could take a better stab at it than me.
    I know one argument is that the monarch somehow provides balance in our political system. That she has been check on our politicians. Our prime ministers may have been offered personal opinions at one of her weekly briefings at the palace or through a meeting of the Privy Council, but we’ve no idea what is said. They’re not opinions offered in the public realm. Because despite the monarchy being a public institution there’s no public scrutiny of it. And if our politicians misbehave – as they do quite often – it is they who call an inquiry in themselves. The Queen has not held them to account and she herself could not be held to account. Discussion of royalty is banned by parliamentary rules. Furthermore the Queen has been used as a puppet of politicians. Either to hide behind at times of unpopularity so as not to take ultimate responsibility. Or to rubber stamp their cronyism through our corrupt honours system. Politicians largely decide who get the gongs – big party donors and the like – and she handed them out.
     
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    honestly i don't know or care what road you are trying to drive down.
    But seen as you haven't bothered to address the rest of my post I'll say it again for you.
    We obviously just have different standards then.
    A comment about wanting to see the end of the monarchy, however inappropriate you may consider the timing worse than some of the racist, sexiest, homophobic and xenophobic stuff I have read on here over the years? That's your opinion and you're entitled to it but we definitely don't agree on that point. :)
     
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    You should be tarred and feathered for lèse-majesté
     
  4. Redstone

    Redstone Well-Known Member

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    :D I'm sorry.
     
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    I'm sure the girls that have been sexually assaulted and violated by the Royal's finest gent will deem Andrew's past "irrelevant " as did the Queen when assisting her favourite son (financially). In regards to whether the distasteful comments...the Royals are the same lot that were happy having Jimmy Saville waltzing young girls into the palace for Philip. I'm sure Charles, now king, was also close with Jimmy. I assume they, the royals, have got thick skins, haven't they?
     
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    dont understand, I know that the monarch can disagree but will not over rule the government
     
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    Brilliant post .Thank you
     
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    The royal family have requested amendments to many laws during her reign, and only given royal ascent when the amendments were made. Mostly for their personal gain.

    The most interesting (to me) was to allow the royal household to carry on only employing white people (I don’t know who else is ok with that).
     
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    No law can pass without the approval of the monarch. They can also dissolve the government etc. if they choose. In practice they’ll never use that power outright, but they have absolute power in this country if they wanted to use it.
     
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    If they ever did that there'd be no monarchy quicksticks. There's no way it would ever happen and everyone knows it including the royals.
     
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    It's highly unlikely but nothing is certain. The Forces for example probably feel a lot more loyalty to the Monarchy as opposed to the Government.
     
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    They certainly do. Politicians do not deserve our obedience, their job is to serve us. Something I’m afraid might come as a shock to many.

    Also; the treasury belongs to the monarch, HMT and HMRC, other civil servants work for Departments of government.
     
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    Going on about jimmy savile is similar to people blaming starmer for letting him off the hook.
    A woman's died whatever your views on her family you should have some respect.
     
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    Not really. Jimmy himself said he often took girls into the Palace, this is laughed about in his appearance on the Parkinson show. Not sure where I've shown disrespect in my comment, just an observation really of the family.
     
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    Well maybe stamer could have done his job properly when he worked for the cps. Sometimes if you have nothing nice to say....
     
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    RIP her majesty. Served our country through all them years and did it with class and dignity till the end, a calming voice in times of trouble and worry. We have lost one of the best ❤️
     
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    True, not keen on Starmer myself.

    The Royals, I suppose you should judge people by their actions, protecting a sex offender tends to assist in the judging. But Sticks and stones.........
     
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    When did he say that?
     
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    Starmer did not protect a sex offender, this has been debunked many times but still gets brought out by the right wing. Johnson threw it at Starmer in PMQs which lost him his last shred of decency in many people's eyes.
     

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