Possibly of interest to some on here ….

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by Chef Tyke, Sep 15, 2022.

  1. Che

    Chef Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2005
    Messages:
    19,553
    Likes Received:
    12,573
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    West Stand Bogs
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley
  2. dreamboy3000

    dreamboy3000 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2005
    Messages:
    59,169
    Likes Received:
    25,888
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    DB3K Towers
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Gale underperformed for years as coach. They could have sacked him many times for it being a results business and few would have cared.
     
    North Yorks Red likes this.
  3. onemickybutler

    onemickybutler Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2007
    Messages:
    8,958
    Likes Received:
    9,936
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    They obviously had a strong case for unfair dismissal. Costing YCCC a fortune.
     
  4. x11barnsley

    x11barnsley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2019
    Messages:
    6,236
    Likes Received:
    5,505
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Wakefield
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    It says compensation will cost them “ tens of thousands”
    Surely it’ll be hundreds of thousands ?
     
    Stephen Dawson likes this.
  5. onemickybutler

    onemickybutler Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2007
    Messages:
    8,958
    Likes Received:
    9,936
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Definitely hundreds of thousands….
     
  6. LAI

    LAIKINART Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2015
    Messages:
    321
    Likes Received:
    481
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    YCCC is currently in a very precarious position at the moment, hopefully they have a plan/investor in the pipeline.
     
  7. Terry Nutkins

    Terry Nutkins Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2005
    Messages:
    15,177
    Likes Received:
    12,532
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Music Producer/DJ/Promoter and Owner of Hush Hush
    Location:
    www.hushhush-events.com
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I’m no fan of Andrew Gale, however he is the focal point for a group of lads (some of them are mates of mine) who were abhorrently treated by the new board of YCCC.

    This isn’t about performance, this is about scapegoating and breaking employment law.

    Comments like yours create a false narrative and aren’t helpful at all to all of our rights as employees, no matter what your job role or position.
     
  8. North Yorks Red

    North Yorks Red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2005
    Messages:
    16,480
    Likes Received:
    14,389
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Harrogate
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    why? I think all he meant was, they could have sacked Gale on genuine grounds for under performing (he certainly wasn’t popular with the fans) and saved themselves some money.
    No different to the thousands of football fans who call for various coaches to be sacked every year.
     
  9. Durkar Red

    Durkar Red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2005
    Messages:
    12,055
    Likes Received:
    8,110
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Exorcist
    Location:
    err..durkar
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I think what they did as employers was illegal and those players/ coaches have a right to challenge their sackings but equally it was necessary for YCC to take unprecedented action in order to regain Test match status and survive financially and send a message to the wider Yorkshire community they were prepared to act . Sadly there were people who were caught in the mayhem that didn’t deserve to be
     
    Kettlewell and onemickybutler like this.
  10. x11barnsley

    x11barnsley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2019
    Messages:
    6,236
    Likes Received:
    5,505
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Wakefield
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I was just about to say similar.
     
    dreamboy3000 and North Yorks Red like this.
  11. dreamboy3000

    dreamboy3000 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2005
    Messages:
    59,169
    Likes Received:
    25,888
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    DB3K Towers
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    That's it. Gale was a useless coach for a few seasons and for whatever reason they stayed loyal to him and didn't take their opportunity, when if he had been fired for results nobody would have questioned him being fired. Yorkshire could have avoided this position.
     
    North Yorks Red likes this.
  12. Terry Nutkins

    Terry Nutkins Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2005
    Messages:
    15,177
    Likes Received:
    12,532
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Music Producer/DJ/Promoter and Owner of Hush Hush
    Location:
    www.hushhush-events.com
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Because whether he was underperforming as coach is irrelevant to this story.

    To bring it up now is making excuses for YCCC to get rid of a number of hard working people who have illegally lost their jobs.

    Gale was sacked because he was scapegoated for racism with no due process. It is completely irrelevant whether you or anyone think he was an underachieving coach. That’s nothing to do with him being sacked.

    The is a class action because a number of people were disgracefully sacked. If everyone focusses on Gale and not the entire group, this is why employers feel they can treat workers how ever they wish to.
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2022
    BarTyke likes this.
  13. LAI

    LAIKINART Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2015
    Messages:
    321
    Likes Received:
    481
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Agreed, and is precisely why YCCC is up the sh*t creek! I cannot for the life of me get my head round how this was handled from an employment law point of view. Also the ECB have also much to answer for.
     
    Terry Nutkins likes this.
  14. Fon

    Fonzie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2012
    Messages:
    9,333
    Likes Received:
    15,942
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Let's not parade Gale as some kind of tragic hero in this. The bloke was sacked for being a racist. The fact that Yorkshire were completely incompetent in the process doesn't take away what Gale is.
     
  15. Terry Nutkins

    Terry Nutkins Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2005
    Messages:
    15,177
    Likes Received:
    12,532
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Music Producer/DJ/Promoter and Owner of Hush Hush
    Location:
    www.hushhush-events.com
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    As I have said before, I’m not a fan of Andrew Gale, I know him, have played against him and never agreed with his own business being involved with YCCC whilst he was on the staff.

    He hasn’t a) been disciplined or b) investigated for racism. He was sacked without due process. That’s my point.

    Im not suggesting he hasn’t done anything wrong, I’m suggesting that YCCC sacked him without due process, illegally with many others who definitely didn’t do anything wrong.

    My other point is that you can’t go around saying he should have been sacked because of his results or he’s a **** bloke is irrelevant to this story. It’s adds credence to YCCC who broke the law.

    If they’d have followed due process, investigation and disciplinary then sacked him, because of evidence, I’d say good riddance.
     
    Kettlewell and x11barnsley like this.
  16. Fon

    Fonzie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2012
    Messages:
    9,333
    Likes Received:
    15,942
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Agree with that.

    I've played with him and against him for years. He's got me free tickets for Yorkshire games (which is probably hypocritical of me cos I think he's a CBomb).

    Yorkshire have dropped a right bollock in doing that they did in the manner they did - but he deserved the flick.

    Its a shame that people who I thought were good men have turned out wrong uns too. But that's life I suppose.
     
    Terry Nutkins likes this.
  17. Hooky feller

    Hooky feller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2016
    Messages:
    17,648
    Likes Received:
    20,111
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Retired, full time grandad.
    Location:
    Mapp.
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Whatever the rights and wrongs of individuals. A feckin blind man could see what the rulers at YCCC were going to face in unfair dismissal claims. Unless they they knew they would end up in the courts and underestimated costs and payouts.
    Hope some of those sacked, take/took em to the cleaners.
     
  18. x11barnsley

    x11barnsley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2019
    Messages:
    6,236
    Likes Received:
    5,505
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Wakefield
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    The whole situation is a total catastrophe and needs sorting quickly.
    The saddest part is how it has and will affect YCCC.

    Yorkshire has only recently been overtaken by Lancs as having the most members and on the playing side, we have young players with great potential.
    One consolation is that the ECB will certainly not want to lose the club and will give financial backing in terms of funding etc.

    Another poster suggested an investment company stepping in.
    Yorkshires biggest asset is the ground so they would want it bringing into the equation you would think.
    Would that be the start of the decline ?
     

Share This Page