O/T Moon landing conspiracy

As I look at most things through the prism of watches, there is an interesting story on this in the watch world. NASA issued its astronaut's with omega speedmaster chronographs, omega having beaten Bulova in a competition for the contract. The watches belong to NASA and are retained or in museums. Bulova, finding no other use for them, gifted them to astronauts. Omega sold £hit loads of "speedies" which now came engraved with "the only watch worn on the moon". In 1971 David Scott drove the lunar rover buggy on the moon. In 2012 he broke silence and stated his "speedie" broke and he had brought "his" Bulova which he went back to the module to get and wore on the moon. He was going to auction it off because his pension as an air force colonel was cutting it. The watch made £1.6 million at auction. Bulova smelt blood and, now owned by citizen, launched a re-working of the watch world wide as the "moon watch". Cue a massive legal battle with Swatch group who own omega who had trademarked " moon watch" and called BS on the whole story. They got NASA footage, digitally remastered it and examined the dust on the watch, both of which in 2015 proved it had indeed been on the moon. If the watch went, the bloke wearing it did. Omega were forced to change the back of all future speedmaster to the first watch worn on the moon. As a sting to this, Scott showed his thanks for bulovas generousity by suing them for using his name/photo in advertising without his permission. He lost the bit about having hurt feelings but won on the copyright to the name. Rather than pay him a licence fee, Bulova airbrushed his name out of the advertising blurb. Btw. If you have £350 to £400 to spend on a watch, I'd totally recommend a Bulova " lunar pilot."

 

Just so we're clear here. Going forward I have no intention of "playing the game" with you. I'll put the odd post to counter your drivel but I have no intention of engaging with you. I think you're a freak and what's more a dangerous one. There are far too many people in this world who have had tneir lives ruined by going down the conspiracy theory rabbit holes you espouse. You're not a bit of a card you're a menace. If just one person happens to follow your rubbish and falls for it it's one life damaged.
It shouldn't have to be the responsibility of Supertyke or any of the rest of us to deal with your mischief and lies. That's what admin should be doing.
So off you go. Hopefully we wont see you again until 2024.

 

Definitely did not go to the moon

 

Yes, but apart from that...

 

Mr Spoon used to go every week and take his kids and friends. So NASA, it's not that hard really is it.

 

A 'dangerous' 'menace'? You do amuse me Churton.

You do know this is a discussion board right, where people put forward different ideas and opinions on a broad range of topics and if everyone on here held the same opinion, as you would like, it would be a poorer forum for it? Just because my opinions differ to yours does not make them 'mischief' or 'lies'. What is 'dangerous' is scared little men like you trying to shut down freedom of speech, expression and opinion.

You believe men have been on the moon and, based on things I've read and seen, I believe they haven't. There's nothing particularly dangerous about that, is there? You surely must know that there are many people around the world who believe the moon landing was faked. How many lives do you seriously think I have 'damaged' by saying that I believe the moon landing was a hoax? You really need to lighten up a bit.

 

Certainly nothing menacing with not believing people have been to the Moon.

It's shows either a complete lack of ability to understand the evidence or a unwillingness to accept it

 

And posting ‘evidence’ you accept to be false is all part of your completely serious ‘opinion’?

Course! That’s completely normal behaviour.

 

You're back and still a fruit cake.

 

Generous....

 

There's this idea that all opinions are equally valid. They're not. Being wrong is not valid, it's just wrong.

 

My three'apeth... It becomes scary or dangerous if you genuinely believe that the moon landings were a hoax and you have a job where you are actually in charge and have responsibility for the safety of equipment, infrastructure or people. If you are not on a wind-up, then your inability to analyse all the info (see my post #79) & @SuperTyke #70 and come to the correct conclusion, is very worrying.

 

Aye, you'd have had to have been a NASA astronaut mate....

 

I think you are mistaken Donny. I didn't accept SuperTyke's rebuttal as proof that the evidence was false. I simply congratulated him on taking the time and effort to engage in a debate on the subject. I also respect and defend his right to hold a view that is contrary to my own.

I posted links to 4 videos in my post.

The first video I believe shows Stanley Kubrick discussing his involvement in filming the footage shortly before his death. SuperTyke simply parrotting the suggestion that it could be an 'actor called Tom' doesn't change my belief that it is Kubrick (seen pictured below with George Muller who headed the NASA Office of Manned Space Flight between 1963-69). If SuperTyke can produce conclusive evidence that the man in the video is not Stanley Kubrick and is in fact Tom the actor, then I am perfectly open to having my opinion changed.

The second video is clearly open to interpretation. I believe it is genuinely the 'astronaut' Buzz Aldrin in the video and when asked by a young girl why men haven't been back to the moon he replies "I think I know why.... cos we didn't go there and that's how it happened". My interpretation of this is that he is admitting that men haven't been back to the moon because "we didn't go there" in the first place.

The third video, I believe, contains outtakes of the fake moon landing footage as released by Wikileaks. If SuperTyke can produce firm evidence to the contrary then, I would happily concede that it isn't moon landing outtakes.... but that would not necessarily change my belief that the moon landing was faked..

The fourth video shows President Nixon conversing directly or indirectly with astronauts (allegedly) on the moon. I don't believe that we had the telecommunications capability back in 1969 to make that possible, but that it didn't matter because the men he was talking with weren't on the moon (because I still believe the moon landing to be a hoax).

I'm looking forward to SuperTyke fleshing out his response and providing some firm evidence to back up his assertions.



For the record.... I also still believe that the outcome of the 2020 US Election was altered as a result of large-scale fraudulent activity including (but not limited to) ballot stuffing by paid mules and manipulation of security flaws in the Dominion voting machines. Unfortunately, I have no control over timescales but I still expect that my opinion will be fully vindicated in the near future and I look forward to receiving some serious helpings of humble pie from you (and others) if/when this happens. In either case, I will take a degree of satisfaction from your displeasure at Trump being US President again since he is looking likely to be back for a second term, whether you like it or not.

 

So presumably you believe the reflective materials left on the moon were done by a unmanned craft?
Do you believe all the landings were fake or just the first one?

 

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Your best ever post this.

 

As per usual, everything on here is getting polarised again, so, for what it’s worth (and I wouldn’t consider myself a conspiracy theorist!), my opinion is;
1. Q: Did NASA ever land on the moon?; A:Yes of course, multiple times, the evidence is obviously there.
2. Q:At the height of the Cold War, being beaten in space on various other firsts by the Russians, is there a small sliver of a percentage point of a chance that America staged the first landing to win the race and get a huge one over on the Russians in the propaganda war and thus prevent them from pushing further for the moon landings themselves? A: of course there is… but whether they did…. Hmm… not convinced and on balance, I doubt it…