Rachel Reeves, Labour Response

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  1. Fon

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    Glad to see we're back on the narrative that young people can't afford a house because of their Netflix subscription and because they had avocado for breakfast.
     
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    I knew one. He grew up for a while in Barnsley. He was a nice guy, bought him & his wife tickets to Barnsley vs Leeds a few years back. He had a club in Crewe at the time & a hotel & treated me like royalty TBH. They fold companies when they lose money, before taking all the cash out. When they do make money it is syphoned off to new companies outside the UK. He admitted as much.
     
  3. Gimson&theBarnsleys

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    Thinking more of the likes of Barret and Persimmons's.
     
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    Funnily enough I met a former senior manager of Persimmons at the same bloke's house in Cheshire. He now owns about 40 fish & chip shops, quite a few in Cyprus. £9 quid for fish & chips & cash only... They all play the game, gamble like ****, snort loads of coke & live in big mansions & drive massive cars & have trophy girlfriends. In my job I see these people all the time & they are really kind to me, so as individuals I just roll with it. For me to say any of this is OK, no, but they are allowed to do it legally. I do my job & they know my politics, but WTF do you do beyond that?

    PS not really involved in this now post lockdown, as all those clubs are shut. We just do weddings & parties now. Was a culture before though.
     
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    Labour 33% ahead of Tories in recent poll .
    Some of the Tory Press having to be a little critical as the readers may turn on them but elections three years off which will be plenty of time for them to pick at Brain Cells .
    Just hope Starmer doesn’t like Bacon sarnies .
     
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    Election is likely to be May 2024, 18 months away.
     
  7. Marlon

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    It won’t be if they still behind imo . Unless they rile up their MPs they’ll while while the polls favour them or take it to the full term .
     
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    Thankyou Sir, its a scary World we live in, and i can't see any light in the tunnel.
     
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    Okay then, let's just double that. How about a 33% lead? That do you?

    Just think what he could do if he wasn't useless and ineffectual! :D:D:D.
     
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    Use to be one (about 6 years ago)in 3 houses was pure profit for these, not sure these days
     
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    Used to be about 50% of the selling price when I worked for a house building company.
     
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    Whether you wanted it to or not that's how it came across to me and my first thoughts were what a wasted education you have had to believe that of a full generation.
     
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    Well I’m not sure where to start with this but the mortgages weren’t at 12-15% for their life; and I wasn’t ignoring those facts at all. The point stands though that the amount paid relative to income still outstrips now than it did then.

    And as I’ve already said, I wasn’t referring to all of the boomer generation as selfish nuggets at all. The point was that a lot of the people who try to justify right leaning tendencies are of that kind of age and demographic; not that all people of that age lean that way. There are plenty of folk of this parish who are of that vintage and would never vote that way, plenty known personally to me as well - and to anyone offended by what was written, it certainly was not meant to imply anything of the sort.
     
  14. MDG

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    Don't forget the generation of today have been brought into the world by what some would call having a financial advantage. So when they inherit from the gen above, that surely gives a massive leg up to what are classed as young uns these days.

    I'm not sure you can even compare generations tbh. When you compare all of lifes tech advancements, how do you put a price on that. Health care etc.
     
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    Marlon, your a big labour man...81.6% more than me haha.. plus I know you were a big Corbyn fan. I loved some of his policies and hated a few..

    Anyway. Have you watched the 'Labour files' put together by Al Jazeera?

    If what they expose is true, our current Labour Party is only a shade better than what we have atm.

    Quite an interesting watch. Hatchet job on Corbyn from within his own party.
     
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    As ever Fonz, it’s somewhere between the two arguments. Whilst many young people today expect a standard of living that includes foreign holidays, new leased car, the latest tech, clothing from flannels, etc. the house prices are high in comparison to size of wages in the 60’s and 70’s. As ever it becomes a slanging match between both sides. There is truth in both statements.and the intricacies of the argument mean that each side is both correct and wrong.

    My own thoughts are we are heading for a housing crash if rates continue as they are, and house prices will have to lower. But at the same time this will cause hardship and unemployment for many sectors currently enjoying a boom of house building, and will quite likely render a lot of the population homeless as they struggle to afford a roof over their heads. Worrying times!
     
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    I think the possibility of some people inheriting cash likely in middle age (which let's face it is generally after the point where you need it most) isn't a financial advantage.
     
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    It must be nice to know it`s coming though.
     
  19. Marlon

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    I’m sure there’s skeletons in every cupboard in every political party , however I’m more concerned about the actual people in charge at the moment who are attacking people just for not being rich .
    Thr labour in fighting looks healthy to me whereby people are fighting and holding each other to account whilst meanwhile we have had twelve years of practical dictatorship that have attacked our welfare , NHS etc etc and with a strike two people have just torn the country apart and attacked even the higher middle classes .
    So I won’t look for things that are probably not an issue for our country in the immediate future especially the Labour Party that have lots of checks and balances and systems that don’t allow a dictatorship as we have now .
    Even the Tory Press have been spooked by the latest whoring to the richest 5% although still without the injustices of headlines they give labour .
    It’s a Tory trick that the Tory press use to good effect that when (which is often) the Torys **** up they reform to the they are all the same mantra.
     
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    My kids can't wait for me to die.:(
     

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