Wigan played with unequal sized goals

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  1. Shy Talk

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    That's right and IIRC the posts were wooden and were fixed with hammer and nails. Possibly by Rimmo?
     
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    I suppose the flip side of that a goal may have been scored that otherwise wouldn't that could make a big difference come the end of the season.
    I am inclined to agree it's probably trivial in terms of Impact however I'm still surprised it's even allowed at all.
     
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    You are definitely right about Rimmo doing the repairs as it happened when we could stand behind which ever goal we were kicking into & I was stood on the open kop & remember him coming on to the pitch with a pair of steps lol
     
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    But that is massively oversimplifying it. Firstly yes it's the same for both teams but different things favour different teams. Some clubs have wider pitches because they play with wingers, some have longer pitches to favour their nippy forwards who can have long balls hit over the top to run on to etc. These are all permitted variations but the size of the goals isn't variable and shouldn't be.
    Not only that but the game isn't played in isolation is it. It's part of a league. Why should Cardiff's goals for column read as higher than someone else in the championship just because they played with taller goals?

    The referee deciding to completely disregard one of the fundamental laws of the game is unacceptable. It can't be easier to recalibrate goal line technology to match illegally sized goalposts than it is to swap the goalposts for legal ones. It just can't be.
     
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    We are talking about 2 " here , 2 "in which the opposition was also kicking towards for 45 minutes , the problem has been found & will be rectified , I wonder what next , do we need to put a spirit level on the grass to make sure it is bang level ? because to be sure the ground in the centre of the goals gets worn where the goalkeeper stands & will be at different levels at different grounds , its plain barmy & is something that has got blown out of all proportion , interestingly every goal in the league is recorded & a re run of every goal scored there this season will show how many have come from the under side of the bar & it might not be just Cardiffs goal column which has been aided but possibly some other clubs . It is time to accept it was one of those things & move on, mountain out of a mole hill comes to mind .
     
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    Yes it was unintentional but if nothing is done teams could take liberties, knowing they'll not be punished. Give them and inch (or 2) and they might take a mile. Could be making the penalty areas a bit wider and the penalty spot a bit closer "unintentionally", benefiting you if you've got wingers that like to cut inside towards the box.
    A team was fined at the Formula One last week for being 0.1 kmh over the pit lane speed limit. Yes its tiny, but if you let things like that slide how far will they push it?
     
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    But its only the one game - it will be fixed for the next one and probably was correct for all the previous games. Its unlikely but if Cardiff get to finish in 6th 2nd or 20th on goals scored due to level goal difference it would be a bit awkward
    All your above examples apply for every game played this season this is a one off.

    I agree its not the worst thing ever to happen on a football pitch - its more embarrassing for Wigan than any serious attempts to cheat, and I genuinely dont know what the ref is supposed to do in these circumstances, chances are he didnt either.
     
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    Find it strange people saying it doesn’t matter. I would have said it definitely matters. Where do you draw the line? Penalty area too small? Football the wrong size? 12 players on the pitch? You could go on.
     
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    The length of the grass isn't specified in the laws, the height of the crossbar is.
    It may seem trivial to some, but it's akin to placing the ball outside the corner quadrant, stealing yards at throw ins/ free kicks, shirt pulling in the box...and on ad nauseum. Give em an inch and they'll take a mile - where does it stop? I'd suggest with the laws of the game.
     
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    Most clubs are kind of limited to making changes to the playing area by the surrounding stands. We couldn't suddenly make the Oakwell pitch 10 yards wider to accommodate our expensive signings that play on the wing or 10 yards longer so we could play hoofball better - there isn't the physical room available. We could adjust the pitch within the margins of the stadium though.
     
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    I can confirm that the Crewe keeper was Willie Mailey, not the tallest of keepers, otherwise he might have caught Dick Hewitt's shot. Mailey faded out of the Crewe team in later years until he was needed one Saturday when the first team goalie was injured and the reserve couldn't play. Crewe had to put out a message on national radio to ask if anyone knew where Mailey was, because they hadn't a clue and hadn't seen him for ages. I never discovered whether or not they did find him and whether he played that game when he had gone awol. Crewe won that game at Oakwell 0-1, which was disappointing because we fielded what i thought to be our strongest side that day: Hill, Parker, Brookes, Jackson (ex-Rotherham), Swallow, Lambert (ex-Rotherham), Earnshaw, Bettany, Kerr, Ferguson, Hewitt. Crewe had Dave Whelan (famous later for ownership of Wigan and DW) at left back. They won it with a header from Ian Sandiford (free transfer from Stockport County) and we were abysmal. The cross-bar incident caused a lot of amusement, a ten minute delay and coverage in the national press. There was a caption competition in the Barnsley Chronicle, the winner being, 'it looks as though the rot's set in,' or words to that effect. Happy days!!
     
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    I agree with what you say but there is clearly no attempt to cheat as both sides kick towards the goal for 45 minutes , where your other examples are attempts at cheating & they all wind me up , especially the shirt pulling , but the goal posts being 2 inches out is clearly shoddy work by the groundsman .
     
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    You've got to like Mark Hudson's (Cardiff interim coach) comment that he tried to get Cardiff to let them play both halves into the bigger goal, but they wouldn't let him. Hmmm! Humour is not yet dead.
     
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    3 match ban for McGeehan
     
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    The pitch is never level, it isn't supposed to be. The goals ARE supposed to be a standard size. They weren't. Ref should have ordered the nets be replaced. It really is that simple
     
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    I'm chuffed about the mistake, just to witness this meltdown.!! :rolleyes: :)
     
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    I don't think you have a clue what a meltdown is
     
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    Essentially it occurs when a body can not contain the explosive activity of the material within..
    I've seen the Simpsons..!! :)
    The goalposts at Barnsley haven't been plum in my lifetime, by the way. I notice it every time I sit in the West or East Stand. One of my more minor OCDs. It's at least 2-3 degrees out. Fine margins, but in theory that could mean a shot going in off the post or not.. o_O:)
     
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    Wigan get a bit confused:

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    Agree
    After a final league position is decided on points, it's goal difference and if it's the same. (I'll stand corrected) the next criteria is goals scored. Highly unlikely but not impossible.
     

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